Talk:List of universities in Canada/Archive 1

St. Paul University (Ottawa)
How come St. Paul University is not on the list? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.117.196.177 (talk) 18:53, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Because it doesn't award its own degrees. It awards University of Ottawa degrees, and is a federated school. No federated schools are on the list. --Me-123567-Me (talk) 20:25, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Guelph-Humber
See discussion at Template talk:Ont Uni. --GreenJoe 15:19, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Redeemer and Tyndale
There appears to be some discussion about these two institutions. I thought I would point out that the Ontario government's website lists these two on their list of "Privately Funded Ontario Institutions with Degree-Granting Authority" and seem to actually avoid calling them universities. On the other hand, the Association of Universities and Colleges of Canada clearly refers to Redeemer University College as a university; see here. From where I sit, it is not all that clear cut whether these two institutions should be on this list or not. Others' thoughts? -- Paul Erik (talk) (contribs) 05:54, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * As I have already stated on GreenJoe's talkpage, They can be considered Universities as they clearly grant degrees that are fully accredited (that includes non-religious degrees). Clearly, they have all the attributes of a university. Also, Tyndale University College and Seminary Act, 2003, Redeemer University College Act, 2000 and Redeemer University College Act, 2003, were enacted for the purposes of making them universities, with both degree granting powers and to change their names to reflect that new authority. nat.utoronto 06:02, 28 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, the AUCC site supports you for Redeemer, and this supports you for Tyndale. -- Paul Erik (talk) (contribs) 06:05, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I couldn't access that link. GJ (talk) 06:10, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. Its lead paragraph is, "A private member's bill granting university college status to Tyndale College, Toronto, has been passed by the Ontario legislature and signed into law. This fall, the institution will change its name to Tyndale University College and Seminary and begin offering bachelor of arts degrees." -- Paul Erik (talk) (contribs) 06:24, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * University College status != University. Awarding degrees != University. Ontario Community Colleges also award degrees. Does not make them a University. Neither does "university college status". AUCC membership isn't even a full indicator because BC University Colleges are members, meaning, not a University. GJ (talk) 06:25, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * They are not AUCC members, and not listed here. GJ (talk) 06:09, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Redeemer is an AUCC member it listed on their webpage. The only reason they weren't listed here was because they are not publicly funded, publicly assisted universities, but privately funded universities. Private funding does not strip them of their university status. nat.utoronto 06:32, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Tyndale isn't though. And "University College" != University. AUCC != University. GJ (talk) 06:37, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Joe, Colleges usually grant BAAs (Bachelor of Applied Arts) not BAs (Bachelor of Arts), or BScs or BEds, or BBAs, there is a difference. Tyndale and Redeemer both grant BA, BSc, BEd, and BBA. nat.utoronto 06:40, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * (ec x many) I also found a brief Globe and Mail article from 2005. It is not accessible to everyone but here is the link. Again, interestingly, the writer seems to avoid calling Tyndale a university, but does state, "Tyndale provides university education in a wide range of disciplines and accredited programs at both undergraduate and graduate levels." It is an interesting question: Can an institution "provide a university education" but not be a university? I can see both your points, to be honest. -- Paul Erik (talk) (contribs) 06:41, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Not always true Nat, and not an indicator of a University. GJ (talk) 06:47, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

(EC) Also, Take OCAD for example, its called the Ontario College of Art and Design, and its a university, but it has "university status". This news report here states that Tyndale has been "accorded university status in 2003". nat.utoronto 06:44, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * OCAD is listed on the Ont gov website. Tyndale is not. GJ (talk) 06:50, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * The only reason they weren't listed here was because they are not publicly funded, publicly assisted universities, but privately funded universities. Private funding does not strip them of their university status. nat.utoronto 16:40, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I disagree. I don't think Dominican University College is publically funded or assisted, and it's listed. The page makes no mention of that anywhere. GJ (talk) 20:51, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Here it states "Ontario has 18 publicly funded universities. These universities, as well as the Ontario College of Art & Design, receive funding from the Ontario government." Dominican is listed as a publicly funded University. nat.utoronto 22:49, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Your Tyndale is listed here which is listed with the other Seminaries. There is nothing that says it is a full University there. In fact, nothing you've shown as said it's a full University. You've provided circumstantial evidence at best. GJ (talk) 23:14, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm glad that discussion is finally occurring here, instead of continuing the pair of one-sided series on GreenJoe's and Nat's talk pages. The main issue I see with this article is "what is the article's scope"? Currently, the only stated criteria for inclusion in this list are (1) being a university and (2) being in Ontario. Broadly defined, both Redeemer and Tyndale seem to be "universities." If Ontarians agree that "university" should be more narrowly defined for this list, then the article should describe that narrower scope. --Orlady (talk) 14:10, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * To add to my previous arguments about Colleges offering a degree, here it lists Baker College offering a Bachelor of Business Administration degree. --GJ (talk) 23:17, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm... All is silence... It appears to me that any Ontario school listed on either http://www.edu.gov.on.ca/eng/general/postsec/univers.html or http://www.edu.gov.on.ca/eng/general/priv_deg.html meets the definition of "university". That second URL states: "Institutions in Ontario wishing to offer degrees, or programs leading to degrees, must comply with the Post-secondary Education Choice & Excellence Act 2000 which governs degree-granting Institutions. The Act prevents institutions from granting degrees, providing programs of postsecondary study leading to a degree, or being known as universities, unless they are so authorized by an Act of the Legislative Assembly of Ontario or have the consent of the Minister of Training, Colleges and Universities." All of the institutions on the two cited lists are either publicly funded universities or "Privately Funded Ontario Institutions with Degree-Granting Authority" from the Legislative Assembly of Ontario. There are 17 schools on that second list, including Redeemer and Tyndale, but none of them are listed in the List of universities article. If Canadian Wikipedians want to define "universities" for inclusion in the list in a manner which excludes these schools, you had better include a clear definition in the article, as a common-sense interpretation says that 17 schools are omitted from the current version. --Orlady (talk) 05:01, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I figure if they meant for those on the second list to be called a University, it would say so on the second list. We have community colleges in Ontario that offer degrees, and not just basic applied degrees either, so confurring a degree does not make a University. GJ (talk) 11:20, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I was browsing through the list of universities in Canada today and was surprised that Tyndale University College & Seminary was not included on the list. After reading through the comments here it seems to me that Tyndale (and Redeemer also I guess) have rather arbitrarily been kept off this list. For example, can someone explain why Bethany Bible College is listed here but Tyndale is not? There have not been any comments in this discussion since 2008 so maybe it is time to revisit this? Dhewer (talk) 05:40, 14 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Maclean's counts Tyndale University College and Seminary as a University in their survey (http://oncampus.macleans.ca/education/2009/02/04/2009-student-surveys/6/ )-- and Tyndale took top place in two categories (2009)! The two applicable Province of Ontario Acts can be found here (2005 - http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/source/private/english/2005/elaws_src_private_pr05004_e.htm; and 2003 http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/source/private/english/2003/elaws_src_private_pr03005_e.htm ) -- each receiving Royal Assent. Cf. also the letter from the Minister of Training, Colleges and Universities granting ministerial consent for Tyndale's BEd degree program, Dec 2007 (http://www.peqab.ca/Publications/Consents/Tyndale%20BEd%20Min%20decision.pdf ). It's time for this Wikipedia article to add Tyndale as well.Neufast (talk) 22:18, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Disambiguation links
Can someone explain to me why the link to Calgary points to the actual Calgary page, but the links for edmonton and Lethbridge point to redirect pages? --Kmsiever (talk) 20:54, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Silly DYK hook
The DKY hook (....that Ontario has more universities, with 22, than any other Canadian province?) is silly. It's the most populated province!-- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 02:04, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Language Distinction
I noticed that only the Quebec universities had languages mentioned. While it is the only province that has a large number of French universities, it is not the only province with French or Bilingual Universities, and certainly not the only one where that matters. Also, it would be nice if it could be noted when a university operates in some other language (instead or as well). Even something as simple as English/French/Other would be nice (though maybe less then helpful to those who speak various native languages. naturalnumber (talk) 16:03, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

I have now fixed this to the best of my abilities at present. naturalnumber (talk) 20:52, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Alberta section is flawed
1. Universities are not the only intitutions that offer degrees in Alberta. Some colleges do as well. Specifically: Private Colleges: Public Colleges:
 * Ambrose University College
 * Canadian University College
 * Concordia University College of Alberta
 * DeVry Institute of Technology-Calgary
 * The King's University College
 * St. Mary's University College
 * Taylor University College and Seminary
 * Grant MacEwan College
 * Mount Royal College

2. "University Colleges" in Alberta are legally colleges, not universities.

see Advanced Education and Technology > Post-Secondary System --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 03:08, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I think you've fixed this now, is that right? Another thing I noticed was that Athabasca University is listed as being larger than the U of C.  Is that correct?  Does that consider a large number of remote students or something?  Should that be mentioned in the article?  TastyCakes (talk) 22:26, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Problem with AUCC as a source
The AUCC lists all its members as "univsersities". However, who is and isn't a university is set by the provincial governments, and this might not gel with the AUCC's list (see the changes I made to the Alberta section). We should be looking for official government sources rather than relying on the AUCC. --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 21:03, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Now, AUCC lists Saint Paul's University in Ottawa, and the Government of Ontario lists it ... but not on their main page. Is this confusing or what? ( talk→   BWilkins   ←track ) 14:54, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Merge
Inspired by this, I tend to agree that the university sublists could and possibly should all be merged into this main list, as none of them are that large. I have proposed this merge, and am aware it would affect both FLs and FTs however I think it does need discussion. It is also worth noting that List of universities in Nova Scotia is already completely covered within List of universities in Atlantic Canada, but they are both current FLs. Rambo's Revenge (talk)  21:28, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Support. It doesn't appear that the sublists accomplish anything that the main does not.  --Skeezix1000 (talk) 23:08, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Support merge. - they are the exact same content packed two ways. Makes no sense. --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 04:52, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Support The lists are pretty much exact copies of this one and add nothing that can't be said here. -- Scorpion 0422  12:48, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Support Let's get rid of duplicates, please!-- Crzycheetah 20:13, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Support as the main list can contain the sublists without much difficulty. BencherliteTalk 07:40, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Support I wondered this at the FLC for one of these. The sublists provide a little more information, but honestly Canada, you don't have enough universities to need so many lists. But before anything is final we should make sure that all salvageable information in the sublists is included in the main list. I would like to see all of the nice linked maps to still be included. Reywas92 Talk  23:57, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The map issue might be difficult as I can't seem to downsize the maps without squashing the text and making it unreadable.  Rambo's   Revenge   (How am I doing?)   00:23, 27 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Support Let's make things easier for readers. Dabomb87 (talk) 17:33, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * 'Support Yup, let's do it, no need for what are in essence duplicate lists.Dbrodbeck (talk) 04:29, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Support, but keep the provincial titles in place as redirects anchored to the appropriate subsection of the merged list. Bearcat (talk) 16:39, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

This lists have all been delisted as Featured Lists here. With clear consensus, I will now merge them into this main list. Reywas92 Talk 14:28, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Student enrollment data
I see some discrepancies in the listed enrollment. Examples: Those are just two I checked. Not being a regular editor of this page, I have no way of knowing what the source of these discrepancies is. Comments? Sunray (talk) 19:31, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) The narrative in the section on British Columbia states: "University enrollment in British Columbia ranges from Quest University with 80 students to the University of British Columbia with 45,484 students." That doesn't square with the table which lists total enrollment for UBC at 50,330 (including the Okanogan Campus). However, the citation in the table gives a different number (48,610).
 * 2) The enrollment for Concordia is listed in the table as 43,944. Yet the citation lists it at 33,330.

University Canada West
University Canada West may not meet the inclusion criteria for this list, as it is not a member of AUCC. --Ronz (talk) 18:23, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that is a tough one. I reverted the change, as the IP seems to have an agenda.  I am quite familiar with the system in Ontario, but not as much with BC.  University colleges (which say, Algoma was before 2008) can be members of AUCC.  When Algoma joined AUCC it was granting Laurentian degrees not Algoma ones.  It can all get quite confusing....   Dbrodbeck (talk) 18:49, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure that I agree. It is a Canadian university, and authorize to operate. AUCC != accreditation. --Me-123567-Me (talk) 23:20, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm just pointing out that the inclusion criteria for this list is not clear. I'd add that UCW is not a research university either. --Ronz (talk) 23:49, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Neither are many of the former "University College"'s that were converted in BC to full Universities. Instead their teaching-intensive. --Me-123567-Me (talk) 02:12, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Again, the inclusion criteria could be clearer. --Ronz (talk) 15:45, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Perhaps we should ask at the universities wikiproject? Dbrodbeck (talk) 17:48, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Good idea but I'm not sure how much Canadian expertise you'll find there. I'm definitely out of my element!
 * It might be helpful to have a concrete proposal or two for others to evaluate. Further, it would be very, very helpful if someone could clarify how universities are regulated in Canada e.g. does anyone control who can call themselves a "university" and award degrees? ElKevbo (talk) 18:00, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The right to grant degrees is governed by the various provinces. In Ontario, for example, a university needs a charter which is a piece of legislation establishing the school.  This is either an order in council, or a full blown act of the provincial legislature. Dbrodbeck (talk) 18:45, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) We've tried to figure out the details as far as UCW is concerned on it's talk page. It appears to be regulated by the provincial governments. The private universities seem to be poorly regulated and open to criticism like http://www.calgarybeacon.com/2009/10/canadas-universities-losing-sight-of-university-excellence/ --Ronz (talk) 18:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

(unindent) Now can someone please clarify if the term "university" is protected or regulated in Canada?

It's starting to sound like this may be very similar to how we run things in the States with most of this left up to the states to regulate and there is a general lack of clarity and bright lines. In the U.S. we often turn to accreditation or Title IV (federal financial aid) eligibility to provide a bright line. Would that be a useful approach here? ElKevbo (talk) 19:03, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * You can get financial aid to go to pretty much any sort of post secondary education through both provincial and federal money. Another thought, maybe eligibility for research grants for faculty?  Community college teachers cannot get those, so there might be something there, as the funding councils have made a distinction. Dbrodbeck (talk) 19:07, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Not a bad idea!
 * Does anyone know how higher education scholars in Canada approach this issue? Is there anything helpful in PSIS or is there another body that classifies or categorizes Canadian institutions?  ElKevbo (talk) 19:13, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Well, I cross posted to the University and Canada wikiprojects, let's see what we get. And yeah, it is a bit of a puzzler. Dbrodbeck (talk) 18:57, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

I think University Canada West should not be included, but only if the inclusion criteria are clarified to restrict the list to AUCC members.  PK T (alk)  19:52, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

I can't speak to the BC situation specifically, but in Alberta, a post-secondary institution only becomes a true university by provincial decree. A school can put "University" in its name, but that doesn't change the reality that it is usually a private or community college. If BC treats this in a similar fashion, it should be possible to find on the government website which schools are accredited as universities. Resolute 20:25, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * This http://www.bccat.bc.ca/pubs/degreerecognition.pdf makes me think we should go with AUCC membership. That said, some university colleges (Algoma, when it was a university college for example) which makes it a bit of a problem.  I think AUCC and Tri Council funding eligibility might be the way. Dbrodbeck (talk) 22:18, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Restricting the Wikipedia list to match the AUCC list provides us with (1) a source upon which Wikipedia can rely, and (2) an organization that makes a determination of what is and what isn't a university in Canada.  PK T (alk)  16:59, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't agree. It's a University, because the BC government says it is. Education is a provincial responsibility under the Constitution. It should remain on the list. --Me-123567-Me (talk) 03:17, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

To answer the question: In Canada, a University must apply to the Minister to use both the word "University" and to offer a degree, unless that University is a public university. Even then, if they operate or advertise outside of their province (since it is provincial juristiciton) then they sometimes have to get permission from the province they wish to operate in. A board (much like the Degree Quality Assessment Board in BC) evaluates the application, and makes a recommendation to the Minister in the province of that board. Me-123567-Me (talk) 03:20, 28 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I think it should be included as it is a provincially accredited University, the issue seems cut and dry to me... --  RP459  Talk/Contributions 23:56, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

I think it may be important to make a public/private distinction. The public institutions are more consistently regulated and, with some exceptions, usually the higher ranked institutions. Private is a much more amorphous category. In BC, accreditation by PCTIA is important, but it goes way beyond universities to even include some yoga teacher training programs. I'm in BC, in a university, my take is of the private universities: TWU is a well established mostly undergrad religious university, their degrees are recognized by UBC, SFU, UVic and I've known several people who go onto graduate study at these institutions from TWU. Royal Roads is almost entirely graduate degrees, specific areas, targeting mid career professionals. Quest U is very new, a bit of an unknown quantity, targeting undergrads, teaching oriented, largely international. All three so far, have 'campuses' in the traditional sense. Canada West - seen the adds and looked at their website, not that clear. Apparently it's downtown, but I've never noticed it. Fairleigh Dickinson - news to me that they are here. I'm guessing it's a pretty small program - and basically a small branch plant of their main university in the US. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.189.85.132 (talk) 18:32, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

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AUCC membership and degree recognition
This is NOT true and unacceptable: "graduates of institutions that are not AUCC members sometimes find that universities in other provinces do not recognize their degrees.[31]" Can someone please fix this? We can't look at insane exceptions and post them as the rule. This is hardly ever the case in Canada. 156.34.14.96 (talk) 18:14, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * The source is reliable and very clear on this issue. Do you have alternative or more recent sources that differ? ElKevbo (talk) 00:15, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

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Algoma
The same persistent user 64.229.246.209 that was on Talk:Canada Day has now retaliated by removing my perfectly fine edit. He obviously has not moved on and has something against me. He used the same thing I told him "per WP:BRD, you must first take it to talk page and see the discussion unfold before the change is made" in a childish way to "get back at me". If he wants it that way, fine, but he is just doing it in spite. In any case, my edit clarified the fact that Algoma was not established in 2008 like it implied before, but was only re-established. This way it is clearer that it wasn't a brand new university formed in 2008, rather it branched from an existing one. Pinging User:Dbrodbeck and User:Walter Görlitz. I already know that Dbrodbeck is fine with the edit as I clarified the second time, and thanked me for it. Regards, Vaselineeeeeeee</b>★★★ 02:21, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * The aggressively disruptive editor User:Vaselineeeeeeee who has a history or edit waring, and has been banned from editing in the past is once again starting more disruptive editing. In fact the only reason they are even editing this article is from following my edit history. Yet he makes all these wild allegations. I won't get sucked in to a war with an Napoleon complex editor. The edit was unclear and worded poorly. Which is par for the corse. 64.229.246.209 (talk) 02:33, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Why do you keep bringing up the past? You can't call me for making such allegations when you are doing it yourself. From following your edit history? Not at all. As I said on your talk page, I clicked Dbrodbeck's page and said he was a prof at Algoma, which I then clicked on, and then stumbled upon this page. Did I revert your edit you made to this page? No. It was a fair edit. Walter's been blocked before, does that mean he is a bad editor? Not at all, people learn for their mistakes. Am I edit warring with you now? No. Did I break 3RR? No. What can you report me on? Nothing. This has NOTHING to do with the matter at hand, anyway! Why have you removed my edit? It was poorly worded? Okay, then I'll fix it if that's your only problem. I am open to that, it maybe could have been worded better. Or will you just revert it again out of spite? <b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>★★★ 02:39, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Please use talk page for reworded edit options. 64.229.246.209 (talk) 02:48, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

How about:

The oldest university, the University of Toronto, was established in 1827, while the newest university, Algoma University, was reestablished as its own university in 2008 after separating from Laurentian University. The largest university in terms of enrolment is the University of Toronto, which has campuses in three locations. The U15 Group of Canadian Research Universities is headquarted in Ottawa. <b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>★★★ 02:54, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * 'gaining independence' might be better than 'separating' That said, AU did not exist before 2008 as an entity.  Algoma University College did though.  Dbrodbeck (talk) 03:06, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Dbrodbeck. That's why in my very first edit to the page, I mentioned the college part. Can you copy that paragraph and input what you would like since I don't know how you would word it with the college entity part. Thanks. <b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>★★★ 03:08, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Taking Dbrodbeck's words into consideration, how about:

The oldest university, the University of Toronto, was established in 1827, while the newest university, Algoma University, was reestablished from a college into a university in 2008 after gaining independence from Laurentian University. The largest university in terms of enrolment is the University of Toronto, which has campuses in three locations. The U15 Group of Canadian Research Universities is headquarted in Ottawa. <b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>★★★ 03:49, 12 April 2016 (UTC)


 * If no one has any objections to this revision, I will update it shortly. Regards, <b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>★★★ 23:20, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Please wait for consensus before making any edits. I still think it confuses the issue and is irrelevant. 64.229.246.209 (talk) 01:59, 15 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Would you like to make a suggestion then? No one has responded in three days, so unless you have a suggestion, the consensus has been reached. <b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>★★★ 02:04, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually consensus has not been reached and you will leave it until it has been reached. My suggestion is "The oldest university, the University of Toronto, was established in 1827, and the newest university, Algoma University, was established in 2008" which is accurate. Your versions unnecessarily overcomplicates it. 64.229.246.209 (talk) 02:13, 15 April 2016 (UTC)


 * That is not a suggestion. That is no change from before. I will repeat, Algoma was NOT established in 2008 (as it implies it is brand new), but was reestablished from an existing college into a university which is necessary info. You come on Wikipedia just to see if there was a change in this article as you have not made an edit since this discussion on April 12 but are quick to revert within an hour of the addition. You are clearly WP:NOTHERE. <b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>★★★ 02:16, 15 April 2016 (UTC)


 * The University of Toronto was established in 1827 making it the oldest University in Canada. The newest University in Canada is Algoma University, which was established in 2008 after gaining independence from Laurentian University. Mattximus (talk) 02:18, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Mattximus! That version is fine with me. IP, are you okay with it? <b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>★★★ 02:21, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Perfect. Well done. 64.229.246.209 (talk) 02:46, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm going to ping User:Dbrodbeck one more time to see if he agrees. <b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>★★★ 02:53, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello all. Sorry, I am at a conference, so have not been paying much attention, well except to the talks at the conference.  Anyway, AU wasn't a college really, not in the Canadian sense.  It was a university college,  which is a bit different.  We granted laurentian degrees up until 2008.  Nipissing was like that until it got its independence.  Hope this helps.  Dbrodbeck (talk) 17:02, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Dbrodbeck on that note, would you be okay with Mattximus' version since it doesn't mention college but does present the fact it gained independence from Laurentian (not a whole new establishment). <b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>★★★ 17:15, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I think that is the best version yes. Dbrodbeck (talk) 18:44, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

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Is abbotsford really metro Vancouver?
The article lists The University of the Fraser Valley as being the the Vancouver metro area, I don't think this is true, Abbotsford is past langely which is what most people consider the farthest reach of the Vancouver metro area.


 * Your suspicion is correct, Abbotsford is not in Metro Vancouver. Langley is where the line is traditionally drawn. Mattximus (talk) 13:54, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 18 July 2022
University of Saskatchewan should be changed to a total enrolment number of 26,155

Source: https://news.usask.ca/articles/general/2022/usask-enrolment-surpasses-26,000,-sets-new-record.php 70.64.96.94 (talk) 21:04, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. 26155 is probably an exceptional claim, thus violating WP:SELFSOURCE. Aaron Liu (talk) 09:55, 19 July 2022 (UTC)