Talk:List of villains in Ben 10

Negative Ben/Albedo
Anyone else think there should be a bit of reference to Albedo, Azmuth's evil ex-apprentice. He appered in an episode that literally aired at 7:30 called "Good copy, Bad copy"


 * He only appeared in one episode so he is not notable enough to have his own section. The Azmuth section in List of allies in Ben 10, however, does explain a bit about him. By the way, next time, please sign your talk page comments. You can do so by typing four tildes ( ~ ) at the end. Thank you.--Twilight Helryx (talk) 01:57, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Of course I heard that Albedo has appeared in the Ben 10 Alien Force: Vilgax Attacks video game. Rtkat3 (talk) 9:50, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Vilgax
the paragraph stating that vilgax will appear in the third season of ben 10 alien force has no citation and makes no sense. after all there is no third season to Ben 10 AF. there is a new show Ben 10 evolutions. so i am removing that paragraph. further the fact that ebn and his father trap vilgax in a natural gas explosion is stated twice. i shall remove the second time. if there are any problems simply post it here and reedit the page Tca achintya (talk) 07:44, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Kevin 11
Where the **** is Kevin 11? He is a villain!

Please dont swear, and also he later became an ally remember? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.130.104.183 (talk) 04:55, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Highbreed and the Forever Knights
Do you think the Forever Knights and the Highbreed remind you of the Nazis?: 68.4.46.105 (talk) 20:36, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Highbreed believe themselves to be a supreme race, similar how the Nazis believe themselves to be a superior Aryan race.
 * Highbreed wanted to exterminate other races who are believed to be low beings, like the Nazis who wanted to exterminate Jews during the Holocaust.
 * The Forever Knights search for alien technology to become invincible, just like the Nazis (specifically the Thule Society and Ahnenerbe) searching for occult artifacts to rule the world.
 * The Forever Knights armor are similar to the German knights during the Middle Ages that the Nazis worship.

This question was never answered and I do not know why and I don't know the answer. Can anyone please answer this question?James Smith 06:09, 3 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I did notice the similarity. However, if you want to include this in the article, you're going to need evidence from Dwayne McDuffie or any of the creators because without proof, this would be original research.-- Twilight  Helryx  13:32, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

A lot of original research
Several paragraphs are just original research. They provide no reference to the show's creators, and basically are just points of view from the editors.
 * About Vilgax: "Thanks to the practice he had with this form (presumably between the two serie) ..."
 * About Clancy: "though he hints that he was born with them possibly making him a mutant.", "he speaks for all of his insects as well as himself (possibly under adaptation of the principles of communal intelligence common among hive insects)."
 * About Incursions: "The 'Incursion Empire' name is likely a parody of the Persian Empire... "

The entire article is full of such assumptions. These need to be removed. 201.127.204.84 (talk) 00:34, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Specify that "Ben 10: Protector Earth" is a video game
I think it is extremely confusing to start mixing the appearances of villains within video games and the TV series. This article, List of villains in Ben 10, should list the appearances of the villains in the TV series only. The main article of each video game, if it exists, could list the villains that appear in that video game, and refer to this article when necessary. As of now, this article is littered with mentions of the video game.

In any case, if the video game is mentioned, it should be made clear that it is a video game and not a TV Series. Remember, this is an encyclopaedia, not everybody is familiar with the topic so being specific is important. Examples which don't mention that it's a video game:
 * "Dr. Animo appears in Ben 10: Protector of Earth as the main villain of the South East, and is fought at Oil Refinery."
 * "Sixsix appears again in Ben 10: Protector of Earth as a mini-boss, fought at the end of Cape Canaveral. His role is only to stall for time as Vilgax prepares the final phase of his plan."
 * "Hex (who is revealed to have been possessed by Ghostfreak once defeated) appears in Ben 10: Protector of Earth,as a boss that Ben faces at the end of Effigy Mounds."

This needs to be improved. As I said, the appearances of the villains in the video game should be mentioned on the video game article, not here. ---201.127.204.84 (talk) 00:52, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Separate Lists for "Ben 10", and "Ben 10: Alien Force"
I think it is cleaner and more organized to have separate lists of Allies, Villains, etc. for each TV Series. Although the different TV series could be considered within the same "universe", mixing the events of all series is messy. The most obvious example is the character of Kevin Levin. Some editors have complained that he is not included in the list of villains. This is understandable as he was a main villain in Ben 10, but in Ben 10: Alien Force he is an ally.

Some characters recur in one series and the other; this could be easily handled in the "sequel" article by referring to the previous series List of Allies, Villains, etc. I think this is feasible and would provide a better structure to the Ben 10 articles. ---201.127.204.84 (talk) 01:17, 9 February 2010 (UTC)