Talk:List of waterfalls in Canada

Progress
So far, as of this date, have added all the wikipedia articled waterfalls of Category:Waterfalls of British Columbia, Category:Waterfalls of Alberta, and Category:Waterfalls of Ontario to the list. Need to find some more references and fill in some waterfall criteria for some entries. Need to completely add all the waterfalls of Category:Waterfalls of Canada which have references. Added note in response to List_of_waterfalls_in_British_Columbia SriMesh | talk  03:26, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Some columns sort nicely in this sortable wikitable, such as waterfall name, province, waterfall type and such. Some don't sort as one would expect such as height and width.  SriMesh |  talk  03:28, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * There are a LOT of very well sourced and infoboxed waterfall articles added to Category:Waterfalls of Hamilton, Ontario which have just begun to be added.SriMesh | talk  18:18, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Category:Waterfalls of Quebec and Category:Waterfalls of Saskatchewan are also added.SriMesh | talk  20:21, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Measurements for heights...A discussion has been started regarding highest and largest at the WikiProject Geography of Canada talk page. For all intensive purposes on the List of waterfalls in Canada article, the heights and widths are those cited in the reference or source given in the source column. If more information is needed regarding waterfall height and number of drops and height of drops click on the source link for more info, or on the wikipedia link for the waterfall. SriMesh |  talk  04:17, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Klehini Falls
Didn't add Klehini Falls. See note on talk page of article about references. SriMesh | talk  03:30, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm
The Chaudière River waterfalls are missing. Those are notable enough that a MRC and an electoral district were named after them. The chute Kabir Kouba of the Saint-Charles River is also a notable attraction. Both do tend to be overshadowed by the grander, better publicized Montmorency, though. Circeus (talk) 02:24, 11 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok added the three Chutes-de-la-Chaudière - two in Quebec and one in Ontario.  Then added the Image:Chutes chaudieres.jpg.  The image description says Les chutes de la rivière Chaudière vu de la passerelle du parc des Chutes de la Chaudière, and the geonames site places this park within 2 km of these falls and not the other falls of Quebec ...This one...Chute Kabir Kouba  was much easier to add.  Thank you very much for your comment.SriMesh |  talk  03:59, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The "Ontarian" one is quite likely the French name for the Chaudière Falls IMHO, and the other French one is likely an entry for the eponymous park surrounding the falls, so I kept a single entry, and commented out the two others (all the references pointed to the same place, though, so my conclusions might be incorrect). Circeus (talk) 04:50, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * All the references pointed to Geonames Government of Canada which listed 4 Chaudiere falls, 1 in English, and 3 in French, wich 4 separate coordinates. I could only find one near the park, the english spelling has its own site on wikipedia.  Kind Regards SriMesh |  talk  01:24, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Hunlen Falls
I just created this as I'd come across its BCGNIS entry, which had some height info. However, that height info differs from what in this article (365 meters/1,198 ft ), citing 1300 ft, 850-900 in the first cascade from Turner Lake, then another 400 into the Atnarko River. BCGNIS cites BC Parks as it source for this. Is there a more recent, more official measure than this. is the cite.Skookum1 (talk) 01:16, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Klinaklini Falls/Klini Klini Falls
The two external links on Kleena Kleene both mention this set of waterfalls, but it's not in BCGNIS. Anybody heard of them?Skookum1 (talk) 01:16, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Monkman Falls and Kinuseo Falls
I just created these; I'm uncertain of Monkman Falls is in Monkman Provincial Park or not and don't have any height information; Kinuseo Falls is either 197' or 225', depending on which source is used (the first is in the Monkman Park article, the other is from BCGNIS, which says it's the 5th highest). If anyone woudl care to add them to the article, there's an image of Kinuseo Falls on its page and maybe the elevation/ranking issue can be resolved.Skookum1 (talk) 02:09, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

SOS SOS SOS!!!
This page is in brutal shape right now. Pretty much any error you can think of is on this page. I apologize if this offends anyone; some of you probably have worked hard to keep this page in good shape but this bad boy has a mind of its own. When I get time I'm going to make some MAJOR changes to this page to make sure it doesn't get out of our grasp again.

I won't bite you if you ask me what I don't like about this page at the moment but don't expect me to tell you everything I don't like about it because there is just so much for me to complain about. Seriously, the only way I could explain every grievance I have about this page would be via a long, 5 minute long video of me just ranting about my dislike for this page's current state. I don't think anyone wants that do they now? Thought so! AndrewEnns (talk) 04:08, 6 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Though I don't have the time to help clean a whole lot of this up myself, I can see that it desperately needs work. I would suggest, simply for the sake of simplification and readability, that this article should be reverted to a simple list linking to the various articles which have already been created, similar to the List_of_waterfalls article.  There's just too much information that is being squeezed in here right now, and its too easily made erroneous (especially with the tables being edited the way they are). Bryan Swan  &#124;  World Waterfall Database (talk) 07:24, 24 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Suggest bulleting in the intro, and some distinction in terms between the senses of "highest" and "largest", and maybe a distinction between "widest" and "largest" also ("largest" would seem to have to do, to me, with volume).Skookum1 (talk) 19:46, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Number format needs fixing for sort reasons
I just tried to sort the BC section to try and get a listing by height; it doesn't work, 3, 33, 335 all come in sequence, and 1, 10, 1000 in another sequence. I don't know how to fix the number format, or what to use, but I do know such sorts work in other tables for other things; but maybe List of waterfalls in Canada by height would be a simpler solution.Skookum1 (talk) 19:46, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Remove Falls
There are a lot of red links and a huge lack of pictures. Should we remove some waterfalls? I think some small ones, without pictures and pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.246.231.51 (talk) 23:34, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

elevation/height sort in BC section doesn't work right
Maybe the same is true of the other sections, I just tried sorting the BC section by height of falls and it doesn't come out in the proper order.....is that because of the inclusion of the elevation in feet; would using the conversion template work better maybe? Many of these much higher ones do have BC Names listing, so I'll make stubs, though their elevations are in the World Waterfall Database, rarely in a BC govt site. Shannon Falls is touted in its article, with a cite from BC Parks, as being third highest....and it's a cascade and tiered, not a free fall like some of the much higher ones like Alfred Creek Falls or Francis Falls.Skookum1 (talk) 03:28, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

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Clean up Needed
This page is in pretty bad shape, a lot of different ideas put together, I think I will tackle this page in a few weeks if no one does it first. Probably separate the list by there own provincial pages, maybe include them in the page such as list of rivers of New Brunswick all nicely tied in with all the rest of the bodies of water in New Brunswick here, Also take the pictures out and leave them in the articles themselves. Any objections or suggestions before I do this. Please place it here.23:23, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Odd edits
I reverted your edits on List of waterfalls of Canada. Both entries were about legitimate waterfalls. Care to explain?-- Auric    talk  16:42, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I am moving/cleaning up the article for New Brunswick and placing them in with the List of bodies of water of New Brunswick articles for Brunswick. (If you move to the New Brunswick Article section, you will see a way to view all the bodies of water here)  It makes more sense in my opinion as this page is in pretty rough shape.  I asked people over a week if they had any objections on the Talk Page.  No one replied so I began moving the article gradually.16:50, 3 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I am sort of envisioning the page eventually to become more like List of rivers of Canada as the current layout is very confusing, but that would be a huge undertaking right now as the current page is has a lot of redundant information.17:06, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, I see. In future, though, a descriptive edit summary would have cleared this up a lot faster.-- Auric    talk  17:39, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, good to know. I am glad someone else monitors these pages other than me.  Thanks again17:42, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

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I have the kml files if that would make it easier.

Jason — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.252.39.64 (talk) 20:14, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

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Web sites have changed
The url  http://www.world-waterfalls.com  now redirects to  http://www.waterfallsnorthwest.com , and this database only includes the U.S. states of Washington, Oregon, and Idaho - nothing in Canada. The Canadian falls are at  https://www.worldwaterfalldatabase.com , so many of the references in this article are now dead. I have started putting in the new links but there is a long way to go. In addition, the new website gives updated/changed classes and waterfall types. I have not found any other source for this information, so I have started updating this information from the website (in addition to adding coordinate info where needed). If there are any objections or if anyone has a more official source of information, please holler. Leschnei (talk) 21:02, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I didn't realize, until I started working on this, how many of the information on these waterfalls is based on blogs and other potentially unreliable sources. Does Canada have any kind of official record, kind of like GNIS? Leschnei (talk) 22:23, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

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Single column reflist
A contributor wanted the refs is a single column with no reason given. Adding columns should improve the appearance I am giving it a try. I came across this article fixing citations.

P.S. This article really needs some attention. User-duck (talk) 20:59, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 15 August 2022

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: moved. There's consensus that "in" is preferable to "of" for waterfall-related lists. I'll try to move all of the ones that use "of"; if you find any I've missed, feel free to move them yourself or leave a request at WP:RM/TR. (closed by non-admin page mover) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 17:32, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

– There's more but I think it's easy to get the point I'm trying to argue. I can add more but WP:RMPM says to consider naming conventions even if there is no technical limit to the amount of requested page moves I can make at once. In regards to naming conventions, my reading of WP:LISTNAME has lead me to believe that there isn't really nessecarily rules about this, even if all the cited examples are lists including "of". I don't think these titles should say "of" but should instead say "in". There isn't anything there that says that list titles are required to use of. It just makes more sense to me for the titles to be like this. I originally tried to make a move request for List of waterfalls in Canada but then someone pointed out to me that if done, this should be a mass renaming for consistency. I didn't really realize it was a more widespread thing, but I agree that there should probably be a discussion somewhere since it is. Thoughts? Clover moss (talk) 15:43, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * List of waterfalls of Canada → List of waterfalls in Canada
 * List of waterfalls of California → List of waterfalls in California
 * List of waterfalls of Iceland → List of waterfalls in Iceland
 * List of waterfalls of the United Kingdom → List of waterfalls in the United Kingdom
 * List of waterfalls of India → List of waterfalls in India
 * List of waterfalls of Pakistan → List of waterfalls in Pakistan
 * List of waterfalls of South Korea → List of waterfalls in South Korea
 * List of waterfalls of Sri Lanka → List of waterfalls in Sri Lanka
 * List of waterfalls of Turkey → List of waterfalls in Turkey


 * Support - "of" implies an ownership, whereas "in" indicates only presence within the defined geographic boundary. Certainly this change is more WP:NATURAL. -- Netoholic @ 18:24, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Geographic boundaries is another good reason to change this. Sometimes waterfalls cross international borders (e.g. Niagara Falls). To say that it's "of Canada" when it's in both the United States and Canada would be incorrect. Clover moss  (talk) 23:30, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Support - concur the use 'of' infers ownership of a waterfall as opposes to a geographical location. Dan arndt (talk) 06:30, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Support - many of these pages listed have the text "waterfalls in" within them. There's only a small amount of articles which currently have that "of waterfalls of" part in their titles. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 17:48, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Support - I'm the person who pointed out that there were multiple articles, and I do support this rename. PhotographyEdits (talk) 16:16, 17 August 2022 (UTC)