Talk:Lists of maraji



The following discussion is an archived debate of the Discussions, Suggestions, Consensus & Decisions (regarding ordering of lists of Living Maraji & Deceased Maraji).  Please do not modify it. 

{|class="wikitable" style="background:white;" ! Consensus Summary regarding ordering of lists of Living Maraji & Deceased Maraji
 * - style="border-bottom:3px solid #CCCCFF"
 * bgcolor=#CCCCCC colspan=6|Consensus Summary: Suggestions regarding Spelling of Names
 * bgcolor=#CCCCCC colspan=6|Consensus Summary: Suggestions regarding Spelling of Names

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 * Name column will:
 * list Names as is said on official websites
 * include standardized transliteration of name accompanying Arabic text	(at start simple transliteration following by gradual up-gradation to one with Umlauts & Diaeresis)
 * Common names should also be listed (for purpose of ordering)
 * This will be arranged as following:
 * With horizontal lines in cell, Common name(English | Arabic) at top then English in Mid & Arabic below
 * with this arrangement the Name column will look as:
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! Name This will be applicable for both living & deceased Maraji.
 * style="center"|Khomeini -  Sayyid Ruhollah Mousavi Khomeini
 * }
 * }
 * bgcolor=#CCCCCC colspan=6|Consensus Summary: Suggestions regarding Titles
 * Regarding titles it is agreed upon:
 * include the title in their name
 * For full names: include genealogical titles (e.g. Sayyid, Mirza, etc) in their names leaving aside honorary titles (e.g. Shaikh)
 * For common names: include title(genealogical/honorary) if Maraja is known by them e.g. Shaykh Saduq, Shaykh-e-Bahai, etc.
 * For common names: include title(genealogical/honorary) if Maraja is known by them e.g. Shaykh Saduq, Shaykh-e-Bahai, etc.


 * bgcolor=#CCCCCC colspan=6|Consensus Summary: the Picture column should be the second column
 * The Picture column will be moved to second column position.
 * The Picture column will be moved to second column position.


 * bgcolor=#CCCCCC colspan=6|Consensus Summary: Suggestions regarding Years of Birth/Death
 * We'll be including Lunar Hijri years to the Year of Birth & Year of Death, with horizontal line in mid having CE year above and AH below.
 * Format of Year columns will be as below:
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! Year of Birth CE AH ! Year of Death CE AH
 * 810 250
 * 941 329
 * }
 * bgcolor=#CCCCCC colspan=6|Consensus Summary: Suggestions regarding ordering - List of Living Maraji
 * arrange list as per the common names (& not the full names) means names of Marja as he is known to general public without any prefixes like Al, Agha, Aqa, Syed, Mirza, etc.
 * Dictionary method will be applicable here to arrange similar/same common names, e.g. take case of Bashir Hussain Najafi & Mohammad Hussain Najafi; while listing we'll use Najafi - Bashir Hussain & Najafi - Mohammad Hussain; so we'll place Bashir Hussain Najafi before Mohammad Hussain Najafi.
 * Year of Birth will be used as a back-up option for arrangement if in case there is no difference in the name altogether; in such cases person having earlier Year of Birth will be placed above another who has later Year of Birth.
 * Format & Formating: We will have Common Name (which is name of Marja as he is known to general public without any prefixes e.g. Sistani, Najafi, Montazari, Khamnei, etc.) above horizontal line and below it Full Name e.g. Sayyid Ruhollah Mousavi Khomeini' with all titles, prefixes & suffixes. Default ordering will be according to Common Name. e.g.
 * {| class="wikitable" border="1" style="text-align: center; border:1px solid black "
 * Year of Birth will be used as a back-up option for arrangement if in case there is no difference in the name altogether; in such cases person having earlier Year of Birth will be placed above another who has later Year of Birth.
 * Format & Formating: We will have Common Name (which is name of Marja as he is known to general public without any prefixes e.g. Sistani, Najafi, Montazari, Khamnei, etc.) above horizontal line and below it Full Name e.g. Sayyid Ruhollah Mousavi Khomeini' with all titles, prefixes & suffixes. Default ordering will be according to Common Name. e.g.
 * {| class="wikitable" border="1" style="text-align: center; border:1px solid black "

! Name
 * style="center"-Khomeini |  Sayyid Ruhollah Mousavi Khomeini
 * }
 * bgcolor=#CCCCCC colspan=6|Consensus Summary: Suggestions regarding ordering - List of Deceased Maraji
 * List will begin with the marja that died the earliest at the top and finish with the most recently deceased at bottom.
 * bgcolor=#CCCCCC colspan=6|Consensus Summary: Suggestions regarding ordering - List of Deceased Maraji
 * List will begin with the marja that died the earliest at the top and finish with the most recently deceased at bottom.


 * }
 * }

Decisions We have arrived on consensus after discussing suggestion and decided that new look of list will be as following:

List of Living Maraji It will look like as follows:

List of Dead Maraji It will look like as follows:

 Editors who took part in the Discussion   Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider Rizvi talk!, IsaKazimi (talk), NEDian (talk), عيسى (talk), Theverdict111 (talk)

 Please do not modify it. 

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An apostrophe also is needed at the end. Because in Perso-Arabic scripts ع is a stopping consonant, Like in Sa'ad (سعد). Aminabzz (talk) 11:47, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Number 10 Muhammad Taqi Majlesi Isfahani is dead several months ago.
Number 10 Muhammad Taqi Majlesi Isfahani is dead several months ago. 2600:1700:1950:7C10:9097:4ED0:31D0:7D4A (talk) 04:57, 3 July 2024 (UTC)