Talk:Lists of political office-holders in Belarus

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Before 1918
Hi @User:Mhmrodrigues. Category:Belarusian rulers was deleted by consensus on 7 March 2023: Categories for discussion/Log/2023 February 27. The List of rulers of Belarus was deleted by consensus on 16 March 2023 Articles for deletion/List of rulers of Belarus. I linked to this AfD in my edit summary when I restored the old page on 11 May 2023. I also added No "national leaders" before 1918. It was all WP:REDUNDANTFORK, WP:UNSOURCED and WP:OR anyway. You could have read this easily in the edit history. Re-creating, or essentially reproducing, a deleted page violates WP:G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion.

I'm sorry, but I'm afraid I cannot accept the arguments you've given in your edit summary reverting my restoration, nor the comments you've left on my talk page:
 * I had a too much great deal of work in this page to simply have you delete it. > WP:MERCY
 * And it had important information > WP:ITSIMPORTANT
 * at least move them to other page Belarus-related, please. Like a page called Rulers of Belarus > No, the CfD and AfD decided already by consensus that we should not frame events before 1918 in what is now known as Belarus in such terms as "rulers of Belarus".
 * Just don't erase a great amount of work because you don't agree it doesn't fit there. > I am simply enforcing established community consensus and policy WP:G4, plus the other policies I mentioned in my edit summary. It's not just me randomly erasing something I don't like.
 * I wasn't even notified about your dissatisfaction. Well I didn't notify you personally, but at the very least you could have read my edit summary and the reasons for why we decided to delete the list and the category, instead of asking me Why did you delete my edits...?. I already explained myself.
 * Please be more careful in the future! I have been careful, following all the policies, guidelines and community decisions. On the other hand, you appear not to have been careful in reading the edit summary, or otherwise checking whether something like you wanted to write didn't already exist, or wasn't already deleted.

I'm afraid there is not much more I can do for you. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 19:18, 30 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Of course, you're free to recycle useful content for our existing articles such as Prince of Polotsk, Prince of Turov, Principality of Minsk etc. The main objection the community has expressed is lumping everyone before 1918 together under such pseudohistorical, anachronistic, nationalistic headings as "rulers of Belarus" or "princes of Belarus". Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 19:47, 30 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi! Thank you for your understanding anyways, and for the opportunity you gave me. In fact I just wanted to save my edits somewhere else. My edited content is now at Prince of Polotsk, and this page of Belarusian leaders was reverted. Thank you! Greetings, Mhmrodrigues (talk) 23:02, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Mhmrodrigues You're welcome! And thank you for reverting your own edits.
 * I hope you won't be offended, however, if I point out that I think cut-and-pasting everything to Prince of Polotsk still leaves many issues unaddressed. I am going to point those out to you over there. Nevertheless, this is a major improvement, and I think we can (and will) make this a lot better going forward. :) Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 09:39, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I've responded at Talk:Prince of Polotsk. Greetings, Mhmrodrigues (talk) 22:32, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

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