Talk:Lists of school-related attacks/Archive 2

Attack is a real bad choice of words. Let's come up w something better. I agree.
Suggest you use "Convicted" as the column header since there may be cases when the "Attacker" was in fact innocent. User:stephencrose (talk) 16:40, 29 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.68.130.110 (talk)

Missing shooting needs added please
Cops count too! Michael Blankenship, Police Officer for the Ohio State University. Shot and killed (murder) by a single gunman on campus, while he was on duty and responding to a complaint call regarding the shooter. Source: Officer Down Memorial Page http://odmp.org/officer/14863-police-officer-michael-blankenship

Police Officer Michael Blankenship Ohio State University Police Department Ohio End of Watch: Monday, February 10, 1997

Biographical Info Age: 43 Tour of Duty: 19 years Badge Number: 303

Incident Details Cause of Death: Gunfire Date of Incident: Monday, February 10, 1997 Weapon Used: Handgun Suspect Info: Committed suicide

Officer Michael Blankenship was shot and killed after he and another officer responded to a theft call at a university student center.

The killer was found dead after committing suicide.

Officer Blankenship is survived by his wife and two daughters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.79.244.14 (talk) 12:49, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Missing attacks on O.S.U. campus
Missing shootings(one state prision guard shot and wounded another) Escape attempt by state prisoner, prisoner shot, stabbed guard Two shooting murders in campus Gateway commerical area Stabbing of woman in hospital area by estranged husband —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.79.244.14 (talk) 12:55, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

When a cop is killed in the line of duty on school grounds, that counts too
This is from the Officer Down memorial page: Police Officer Wilbert J. Downey University City Police Department, MO EOW: Friday, December 12, 1969 Cause of Death: Gunfire Detective James E. Boevingloh University City Police Department, MO EOW: Friday, January 23, 1970 Cause of Death: Gunfire Patrolman Francis J. Graham University City Police Department, MO EOW: Sunday, February 22, 1976 Cause of Death: Gunfire Police Officer Stanley Henney California State University Hayward Police Department, CA EOW: Tuesday, May 31, 1977 Cause of Death: Gunfire Police Officer Gary Hart California State University Hayward Police Department, CA EOW: Wednesday, June 1, 1977 Cause of Death: Gunfire Police Officer Carlton Wayne Sudduth Livingston University Police Department, AL EOW: Saturday, June 21, 1980 Cause of Death: Gunfire Patrol Officer Steven Mitchell University of Chicago Police Department, IL EOW: Saturday, August 13, 1983 Cause of Death: Stabbed Patrol Officer Joseph Francis Doyle Brown University Police Department, RI EOW: Sunday, May 8, 1988 Cause of Death: Assault Sergeant Gilbert J. Mast Tulane University Department of Public Safety, LA EOW: Saturday, January 20, 1996 Cause of Death: Vehicular assault Police Officer Michael Blankenship Ohio State University Police Department, OH EOW: Monday, February 10, 1997 Cause of Death: Gunfire Sergeant George Daniel Sullivan University of Nevada Reno Police Department, NV EOW: Tuesday, January 13, 1998 Cause of Death: Assault Corporal Phillip Lorenzo Lee Alabama State University Police Department, AL EOW: Friday, December 1, 2000 Cause of Death: Vehicular assault Police Officer James L. Davis Jr. Butler University Police Department, IN EOW: Friday, September 24, 2004 Cause of Death: Gunfire Police Officer Robert Michael Langley University of Mississippi Police and Campus Safety Department, MS EOW: Saturday, October 21, 2006 Cause of Death: Vehicular assault —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.79.244.14 (talk) 13:06, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Original intent of the page
So, who are you to arbitrarily decide what event is "Columbine like?" Is the intent of this article to be a pop piece, or informative? When Mike Blankenship was killed, he was the only one killed that day by the gunman. How the hell can you say though, that posting that information makes that event, or one on one attacks less meaningful? It meant a hell of a lot to us! Massacre? What's that? Is one person being murdered not a massacre to that person, or to their family? "List of school related attacks"? O.K. then-all school related attacks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.79.244.14 (talk) 13:14, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

We got a problem (should we AfD this thing?)
We have missed all of the third world attacks 2010, and for the twenty first century, we are HEAVILY biased toward the western world.

Are we sure this thing is worth keeping?


 * What third world attacks are you talking about? (Lord Gøn (talk) 17:14, 1 May 2010 (UTC))


 * You know (or should) the ones that happened in Japan, the ones that just happened (this month) in China, Thailand, Singapore (but crime statistics are secret in Singapore), India, and the other 90$ of the human race.Aaaronsmith (talk) 22:11, 8 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, the recent mass stabbings at Chinese schools have been added now. I haven't heard of any bigger incidents in Thailand, Japan, Singapore, or India in the last couple of months though, and it is nearly impossible to keep track of all the minor incidents, because quite often they are only reported in the national or regional media. So, if you happen to stumble over an attack that is not included in this list yet, you are free to either add it yourself, or post a link here at the talk page, so somebody else can do it. (Lord Gøn (talk) 23:38, 8 May 2010 (UTC))

Just went to the trouble to check. We have one incident from Afghanistan and one from Pakistan. Anyone here believe that?Aaaronsmith (talk) 04:50, 9 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Bother to post a link? Like More Afghan schoolgirls ill in suspected gas attack Bombs at market, school kill 24 in Pakistan (Lord Gøn (talk) 11:49, 9 May 2010 (UTC))

Maybe we should AfD this thing. The Chinese alone are adding them faster than we're listing them.Aaaronsmith (talk) 17:38, 19 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh, come on, first of all, systemic bias is no reason to start an AfD, otherwise the whole Wikipedia should be put up for deletion. Second, the Chinese mass stabbings in recent years are covered fairly well, and that there was another one yesterday, which is not yet included, isn't really that much of a drama. (Lord Gøn (talk) 23:52, 19 May 2010 (UTC))

Special:LongPages
Take a look at this. I came here throught Special:LongPages (now this article is in #11). This article has no sense. This is an encyclopedia. --Catalaalatac (talk) 02:51, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Split
Related to the previous talk topic, I think this page could be split into primary/secondary school attacks. At the moment it's far too long and basically unusable. I didn't suggest new names in the split tag because of the ongoing debate about nomenclature: should it be primary/kindergarten for instance. Let's see options. rpeh •T•C•E• 21:24, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I've been bold and split the article into primary, secondary, post-secondary, and unsuccessful. Given the sheer size of the page, it seemed wise to just get any reasonable split done. I have no particular opinion on the nomenclature and just copied the way this list was broken down into the new lists. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 18:36, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Youngstown State University
1 dead, 11 wounded. Should be included. See Huffington Post] and google it. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 20:08, 25 March 2011 (UTC)