Talk:Little Shop of Horrors (1986 film)/Archive 1

Fair use rationale for Image:AudreyStatue.JPG
Image:AudreyStatue.JPG is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

BetacommandBot 03:14, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Trivia in disguise
Despite the fact that this article already had a trivia section, the Pop culture references section is completely unsourced and appears to be nothing more than a trivia section in disguise. The info here either needs to be sourced and incorporated into the rest of the article or be done away with entirely. —67.142.130.42 (talk) 23:06, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

The Dentist is Sadistic
I am fixing the wording of the first sentence of the Product and development section. It had indicated that the dentist character is masochistic, when in fact he is sadistic. 118.90.37.247 (talk) 02:23, 8 January 2008 (UTC) Whoops - ignore that comment. I had misread the section. It was talking about the dental patient, not the dentist. The patient is, in fact, masochistic, as is indicated in the article. Sorry! 118.90.37.247 (talk) 02:25, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Little shop of horrors.jpg
Image:Little shop of horrors.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

BetacommandBot (talk) 23:15, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Gravemind
I think someone should add something to the trivia section that mentions the Gravemind from the Halo series, as it is very similar in appearance to Audrey II(I would do it myself, but I'm not totally sure how to do that, and I'm also just too lazy). If ther's something else on the page that already says this, though, please say so.137.159.189.50 (talk) 01:28, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Title
Should the title be changed to "Little Shop of Horrors (musical film)" to distinguish it from the 1960 original, which was also a film, after all? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.239.139.130 (talk) 20:41, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

That film was titled The Little Shop of Horrors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.176.184.74 (talk) 02:32, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Top of stairs Suddenly Seymour
In the original screen version Audrey goes to the top of the stairs singing Suddenly Seymour and there was a close up on her face and throat that was just so moving that people were coming out of the theatre talking about how powerful that scene was. When the DVD came out it was extremely disappointing to find out that the scene was changed to a wide shot shooting down over Ellen Greene's head so you could see Seymour (Rick Moranis) in the shot as they took turns singing. This switching to a wide angle from the individual close ups they used in the original screen version was so typical of hollywood, you could just see the actor Rick Moranis or his agent throwing a fit because Ellen Greene was given close ups and not only was he not in the shot but the close ups of Ellen were so powerful people walked away from the theater talking about Ellen Greene and not Rick Moranis. If there is someway to let the public or me know when or where they are ever going to play the ORIGINAL version of the movie I would move mountains to be there. Mikeswharf59 (talk) 23:28, 31 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I have asked others to look in on this comment, but, reading it: we could only add information on this to the article if we could find some newspaper/magazine or something (a reliable source which discussed it; otherwise, it would be considered original research, which is not permitted.


 * For the question, about where it might, one day, be shown, you could ask over at the reference desk.


 * Of course, if you do have information to add - with appropriate sources - then please add it; that is what the 'edit' button is for! Cheers,  Chzz  ►  19:33, 3 June 2010 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.250.150.20 (talk)

New footage found
Hey guys! About a week ago, two videos were uploaded to the video site Vimeo containing deleted material. (The videos are here and here.) The material in the first video are, in order:
 * The raw, puddle footage from the opening sequence with original, opening narration.
 * Audrey's line "You don't meet nice boys when you live on Skid Row, Mr. Mushnik." (It's captioned as a "deleted line" for some reason. I'm not sure why.)
 * A comparison of the workprint and final edit of a section of "Skid Row", featuring alternate vocals.
 * An alternate opening to "Grow for Me," featuring Chrystal, Ronette, and Chiffon introducing the song in typical '60s, girl-group style.
 * A slight extension to John Candy's "machine gun" bit.
 * An extended version of "Some Fun Now," featuring different vocals, extended and alternate shots on Chrystal, Ronette, and Chiffon, an alternate orchestration, and more shots of Seymour feeding Audrey II blood.
 * A slight extension of Orion laughing at the canine mouth.
 * An extension of Seymour and Audrey II's "Chop it up!" exchange, and...
 * An extended version of the final sequence in Act I, which features alternate orchestration, Seymour preparing the alleyway, extensions on Seymour chopping up Orin and reactions from Mushnik, an extension on the feeding scene, and an alternate version of the morning after, in which Seymour lies tossing and turning in bed before waking up and looking out out his window.

This is all fine and dandy. But, what I'm more interested in is the second video, which features, in order:
 * The cut sequence in "The Meek Shall Inherit", which features Seymour becoming entrapped in vines and falling into an endless void, surrounded my money, Seymour running through a foggy field of pillars only to come upon a bleeding portrait of Mushnik, Seymour becoming a plant, Seymour waking up, grabbing an ax, and going to destroy the Audrey II before remembering Audrey I, Audrey running towards Seymour with open arms, only to pass him and embrace Audrey II, and Seymour standing on giant contracts, signing the three contracts presented to him in the beginning of the song.
 * The original proposal scene, where Audrey checks on Seymour after he runs out of the shop, Seymour asks her to marry him and, after a brief echo of the shopping conversation they have earlier in the film, she accepts, and they, along with Chrystal, Ronette, and Chiffon, sing a brief reprise of "Suddenly Seymour" (the same one featured in the happy ending) before Audrey stops them after a few lines saying "Seymour, we'd better stop singing like this! I gotta get ready!" and running off.
 * What the uploader says is "the final, approved cut" of the original, unhappy ending: A roughly 3 minute edit of the sequence, featuring different sound effects than those used on the recent Blu-Ray release.

Now, I'm going into to much detail on this to illustrate to you guys what's included. I'm in no way saying we should add all of this information to the article. But, I feel like it should be briefly mentioned, somewhere. Especially the last three.

This stuff is real; it really exists. It's not like I'm saying "Hey! I found this old video in my garage that has lost stuff that I can't upload and you can't see, can I mention it?" This is uploaded online. Anyone can see it. There's no way it can be faked. That's really Rick Moranis, that's really Ellen Greene. I feel like it should be mentioned somewhere, especially the stuff in the second video. I just don't know when and how. What do you guys think? With all due respect, BrianGriffin-FG (talk) 22:28, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

The year
It's never said what the exact year is in the film because the radio has Kennedy as president but September 23rd falling on, I think, a Wednesday. There wasn't a Wednesday, September 23 during Kennedy's administration.

Introduction
I feel it is relevant to mention in the introduction that the off-Broadway musical was itself based on the 1960 film of the same name (featuring Jack Nicholson).

External links modified
Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Little Shop of Horrors (film). Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20100104204843/http://www.mjsimpson.co.uk/interviews/rogercorman.html to http://www.mjsimpson.co.uk/interviews/rogercorman.html

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot  (Report bug) 23:17, 3 January 2018 (UTC)