Talk:Live and Let Die (film)

Jane Seymour
I’ve an error in the “Jane Seymour” link: it points to a “Jane Seymour” that obviously isn’t the actress who played on 007 film. I’ll fix this removing the link. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by MaGioZal (talk • contribs).
 * I changed the link to point to "Jane Seymour (actress)". &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by ThreeTrees (talk &bull; contribs).

African American
Technically, lumping all of the black characters under the heading of African American is wrong, since many of them are residents of a carribean island nation, and not of the U.S. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.110.0.30 (talk • contribs).

Location
why does it say "San Monique" is one of the film locations? "San Monique" does not exist. i can't edit the entry, as i do not know where the area depicted in the film as san monique is, but could someone sort that out? --172.201.249.209 13:17, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
 * San Monique is where a part of the film took place so it's listed under "Film locations." It doesn't mean the film was shot there. See "Shooting locations" for where the movie was actually shot. K1Bond007 17:26, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Big unresolved plot hole in film
When James Bond gets breakfast at the hotel room, he recieves a tarot card that warns him that Rosie Carver, (Gloria Henry), can not be trusted. She is taking a shower when he gets the food. It has never been explained who put the tarot card on the menu warning James Bond. Could you please metion this in your article on the movie, as it bothers a lot of people who have seen the film. The question was asked at www.imdb.com and the response was, nobody knows who sent it. 204.80.61.10 17:16, 13 April 2006 (UTC)Bennett Turk
 * It's never said, but it was certainly Solitaire. While they were not lovers at the time, he did draw "The Lovers" card from Solitaire's stack when she allowed him a vision of his future when he first meets Big. This occurs prior to Bond receiving the inverted Queen of the Cups card during his breakfast. She also pulls "The Lovers" card again at another point, and then obviously again when Bond tricks her. It's also in Solitaire's character to attempt to help Bond because she very much wants to escape Mr. Big's clutches. Bond offers her this opportunity because she's already aware when he first flies to Harlem that he brings 'violence and destruction'. Her trying to get away from Big is revealed, IMHO, much better in the novel, but it's also true in the film and of her "clone" in Licence to Kill (whether you want to admit it or not, Licence to Kill is more or less a retelling of Live and Let Die with different characters; Solitarie = Lupe Lamora). Other evidence includes: she's probably the only one to know of Rosie's deceit and she is the only one that would probably inform Bond by way of a tarot card. Momentarily after receiving the card, Bond goes to a tarot card shop where he presumably buys a deck of "The Lovers" cards. K1Bond007 20:28, 13 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I disagree. I suspect a more plausible explanation is that Whisper left it as a signal for Rosie to betray Bond. The villains wrongly assumed Bond would ignore the card even if by chance he saw it. If I remember correctly, the card is attached to the bill. How could Solitaire have done that? Either way, I don't think anybody put much thought into this episodic script! Fanthrillers (talk) 20:43, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

View to a Kill language
A recent edit to this page suggests that the next appearance of adult language in a Bond film was A View to a Kill. It's my least favorite Bond so I've only seen it a few times, but I have no recollection of there being any off-color language in that film. Can anyone cite and example? If not, then we should revert back to saying Licence to Kill was the next Bond film to use naughty words. 23skidoo 17:49, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I reverted because like you I can't recall anything on this. If anyone can cite an example then we'll go back. K1Bond007 20:28, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Shooting Location
On the St. Petersburg, FL Wikipedia page under the 'Trivia' subtitle, it mentions "About one-third of Ian Fleming's James Bond novel, Live and Let Die, is set in St. Petersburg." However, there is no mention of St. Petersburg being a shooting location on the 'Live and Let Die' page.....can someone clear this up? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.202.80.98 (talk • contribs).
 * The novel takes place there, the film does not. K1Bond007 16:40, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Splitting

 * Each seperate piece of art needs a seperate article. See Revenge of the Sith ....(Complain)(Let us to it pell-mell) 00:08, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Agreed Warpfactor 23:07, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm willing to split off the soundtrack section into its own article, unless anyone else wants to do it. -Wayne Miller 20:34, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Characterisation of black people
The article says this book is controversial due to its depiction of black people. I read this article before I read the book and given what is written here, I went in expecting some sort of awful depiction of black people and African-Americans in particular. Instead, I found almost the opposite. The book has many good things to say about black people; far more than I've noted in most present-day books much less books written in the fifties. Sure, the book uses phrases and states things in a manner that would not be considered harmless in today's PC-mad world but at the end of the day for a book written by a stuffy old Etonian man in the 1950's this book is so progressive it's shocking. Fair enough, most of the bad guys are black, but a discussion at the beginning of the book claims this is a rarity (whether or not that is true). In the book, M and Felix Leiter speak admirably of progress African-Americans has made in fields such as medicine, science and the law, while Bond is content to spend half the book lustfully ogling black women. Of course, the book does refer to black people as negroes, as was common then and it also does have a chapter called "Nigger Heaven" (like many of Fleming's chapters in books, the chapter is named after a statement in a discussion within) but the reference is to Harlem as described in the (also, seemingly non-racist, though I have not read it) book of the same name. Was(is) this book honestly controversial? I can find no justification. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zoso Jade (talk • contribs).
 * Well, there should be more written about this, but I believe the extent of the 'controversy' (and it is sometimes considered controversial) is just because of the use of the "n-word" even though it was written in 1954. In general, The Spy Who Loved Me was probably more controversial for the time; it was banned in some countries, I don't think that ever happened to Live and Let Die - though it was censored up until 2002 in the United States. K1Bond007 20:56, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I seem to recall hearing something about EON Productions having to think long and hard as to whether to adapt it as a movie back in the 1970s; there were apparently elements of the book that were considered too "un-PC" for even back then. I agree that Fleming's treatment of blacks in LALD was generally fair and fine, but as noted the US edition was censored for many years and it has something of a reputation (as opposed to reality) that has built up over the years. Personally I consider it one of my favorite Bond novels, and its strength as a story is evidenced that no less than 3 official Bond films used major elements from it, something no other Bond novel can claim. 23skidoo 18:42, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Dispute over worldwide admissions figure
I notice that this page uses the official figure of 90-odd million for worldwide admissions. I think it should be noted that this figure has been disputed, since it is anomalous to the overall box-office trend for the series at that time and it has been speculated (I would have to dig for a citation) that somebody got the definitions of "international" and "worldwide" mixed up, artificially inflating the box office by adding the US gross to the worldwide, instead of the international gross.

I was wondering what the best way to approach this was. Maybe a footnote in the stat box referring to another section? ce performance? Nick xylas 20:17, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Universal Exports
In the section on "Release and reception," there is an unsourced statement that "Universal Exports gave the film a 004 out of a 007." Is this a joke? Universal Exports is of course the "front" organization that James Bond works for. Is there such an organization that gives ratings for Bond movies? I wouldn't have been suspicious, had it not been for the lack of any citation and the bad grammar ("a" instead of "an"). But this statement appears to have been there for some time, so I was hesitant to remove it. David Kessler 09:04, 9 August 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.44.52.149 (talk)
 * "Universal Exports" is also the name of website for James Bond enthusiasts: www.universalexports.net
 * 86.25.120.179 (talk) 18:29, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The grammar is fine. 00 is pronounced "double-oh" and so is preceded by an a not an an. 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:EC01:F663:A26C:B216 (talk) 14:25, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Additional photo
Maybe it's just me, but I'd like to see a photo of Roger Moore specifically included in this article, seeing as it was the first movie in which he played the Bond role. John Carter 18:13, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree. I'd do it if I could work out how... Callum J. Stewart 13:49, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

The GM Connection
I've seen plenty of GM vehicles in this movie, so it seems like a sort of advertisement for GM. 72.209.43.166 (talk) 04:42, 2 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Each movie uses different vehicle models etc. That doesn't make it an advertisement. El Greco(talk) 15:14, 2 February 2008 (UTC)


 * You cracked the code of product placement. Hooray! 69.253.219.207 (talk) 08:01, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

On the Lack of Q
Kinda ironic that Bond is without gadgets as the Supernatural is featured prominently in this Bond film. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.34.187.81 (talk) 04:56, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Casting
Robert Wagner was approached by Albert Brocolli to replace Sean Connery as James Bond. He declined saying that James Bond had to be an Englishman and that he was 'too American'. He also suggested Roger Moore, who was a good friend of his, for the part. He relates this story in his memoirs 'Pieces of my heart' thate came out in 2008. This story is attributed to Clint Eastwood in the present article, but it looks like there has been a confusion ? (or did they have the exact same reaction to the role proposal? that seems weird) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.174.158.179 (talk) 08:02, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Pointless remastering
Many of these old Bond movies seem to have utterly pointless re-edits in the "new" remastered versions. The remastering is initially most obvious in the music but Live and Let Die has a re-edit that seems uttely pointless. In the original version Bond parks the decapitated London Double-decker bus at the end of the pier and escapes with Solitaire onto the boat that Quarrel Jr. has waiting. As they leave in the boat the weight of the bus collapses the pier and the whole lot sinks into the sea. In the remastered version the boat leaves the pier but the next edit cuts to aboard the boat and you do not see the pier collapse with the bus. This edit serves no function other than to irritate those who remember the original version. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.43.107 (talk) 23:46, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I remember no such scene. Nor can I find any independent confirmation of your claim. - Fantr (talk) 20:20, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

George Martin RIP
No comment on the article. Just wanted to express my condolences on the death of George Martin SonOfThornhill (talk) 15:21, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

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007-themed tarot cards
I can see the appeal to audience and I do not doubt it works as a merchandising tie-in, but what is the in-universe explanation for Solitaire tarotting with 007-themed cards? 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:EC01:F663:A26C:B216 (talk) 14:22, 16 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Good question, I've also wondered about this. Here is one of the cards, which clearly has a logo in the style of "007". Why would the film makers do this? Is it some sort of in joke, or does Solitaire expect Bond to arrive and knows that his code name is 007? This is unclear, and would need a source mentioning it.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 16:57, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Why does no one realize that this film is racist?
So, if you actually watch this movie, you'll notice that every black character is somehow involved with Mr. Big. Yet somehow, You Only Live Twice is the "racist Bond movie." At least that You Only Live Twice had Asian characters that wanted to legitimately help 007, and openly stated that they wanted to help him. Even the one black character that tried to help James was working with Mr. Big. Yet this movie is not considered racist. 2600:8805:3A00:E200:9D83:2842:7C9F:CE81 (talk) 21:53, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * From the lede Live and Let Die was released during the height of the blaxploitation era, and many blaxploitation archetypes and clichés are depicted in the film, including derogatory racial epithets ("honky"), black gangsters, and pimpmobiles. DonQuixote (talk) 22:22, 19 August 2021 (UTC)


 * +1. I seriously doubt if Live and Let Die would get made today in today's woke culture, but in the early 1970s it was riding on the wave of blaxploitation films which were fashionable at the time.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 07:08, 20 August 2021 (UTC)