Talk:Live export

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The independent.co.uk article, which is reference heavily throughout this article doesn't appear to be particularly accurate. For a start, just read the title to see how biased it is. It says over a billion animals are exported each week, but then latter says Australia (the biggest exporter) exports 5 million animals a year. Obviously the billion line is loaded, I don't think this article should be referenced as it shows poor journalism. It will be hard to get balanced journalism on this issue, as the only journalists who appear to be interested are anti live export, and are possibly "sexing up" their stories. Encyclopaedias should be reporting facts, unfortunately you can't rely on journalistic integrity to get that.

I feel that the article is biased now towards anti-live exports. It doesn't discuss the measures being taken to try to reduce mortality and care for the animals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.167.174.53 (talk) 08:03, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

There is a mention of a shipment from Brazil to Lebanon by truck - this is probably incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.150.225.241 (talk) 03:20, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Live export group masquerading as reliable source
The Australian Livestock Export Animal Welfare Group (LEAWG), which runs the web site that was referenced, is an industry-run coalition of organizations that are engaged in live export, including Cattle Council of Australia, Sheepmeat Council of Australia, Meat & Livestock Australia, LiveCorp, Australian Live Export Corporation, and National Farmers’ Federation. As such, it is biased and NOT a reliable source to determine that conditions of live export from Australia are “the world’s best.” Frankly, that’s just industry crap.

The web site offers no documentation or references to have arrived at this statement. If you look at the contact page for this “independent group”, [] you will also see that “The Australian Livestock Export Animal Welfare Group (LEAWG) was established, to provide factual information about livestock exports for consumers and key stakeholder groups. The LEAWG has the support of the Australian Government and also has a secretariat which enables it to respond quickly to emerging issues. Australia is proud to supply livestock exports to the world and as you will see from the information this site provides, Australia is equally proud of its commitment to the welfare of animals."Bob98133 (talk) 14:05, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

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further reading section
This section is a mish-mash of real reliable sources and advocacy pages both pro and con. Normally, I'd say that the advocacy pages should be removed, but since this is controversial, perhaps the Further reading section could be subdivided into: Academic, Pro and Con sections? Bob98133 (talk) 13:58, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Recentism
When did live export start in Australia? How rapidly or otherwise has it grown, and what has driven the demand? How have practises changed over time? This page currently lacks historical context. Danimations (talk) 06:36, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

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But why?
I'm new to hearing about 'live exports'. My biggest question upon reading about it on a news article is Why? Wouldn't it make economic sense for both suppliers and consumers for the said product (meat) to be delivered as cost-effectively as possible (ie. slaughtered at point of origin, and then cut, packaged, and frozen/preserved onward to destination)?

Some points of argument (I cursorily browsed the internet and couldn't immediately find pro-live export arguments) would be helpful, so that we'd get an understanding of why the industry exists in the first place. A historical summary of key markets (ie Australia) could cover this.

Brosefzai (talk) 19:33, 10 April 2018 (UTC)