Talk:Liverpool South Parkway railway station

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Though usually "pro rail" I can't help feeling this station is too big and expensive for the number of passengers it will serve. The "park and ride" facility is unlikely to prove popular as the car park is not easily accessible from the main Liverpool-Widnes road. In the time it takes the motorist to negotiate his way to the car park he could be well on the way along the road into Liverpool. The bus shuttle to the Airport will face similar problems.

The station is going to be very large and impressive and of some architectural merit. Great, but a smaller station would have been perfectly adequate.

And having built the station, there are no moves to allow access from Chester and North Wales via the disused link line in Runcorn. With Virgin trains not stopping there either, there is no opportunity to use it for passengers for London not wishing to make their way into central Liverpool. This WOULD have been a good "park and ride" option.

Just letting off a bit of steam here, I'm sure it doesn't belong in the article.

Exile 11:45, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

More bellyaching from me - foot-dragging by Central Trains on stopping Liverpool-Norwich trains - when the trains have to slow to 15mph to take the curve towards Hunts Cross anyway! Exile 22:45, 27 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Only another 22 months(!) to wait: Norwich services will call at LSP from the December 2008 timetable change. Meanwhile I've heard a rumour that TransPennine Express will serve the station from May 2007 - anyone have confirmation? Rhmeuk 15:34, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Anyone know why it has been given the truly awful name LSP ?


 * It's in the South of Liverpool, and it's a Parkway station. Simple really :-) L1v3rp00l 15:08, 8 June 2006 (UTC)


 * What is a parkway station???, I've heard it before but never understood what it is DannyM 14:06, 25 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I think it has something to do with Park and Ride. Simply south 14:30, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Services (moved from article page)
I moved the bit below from the article as it seems to be just an anonymous person ranting and doesn't seem to belong in an encyclopedia article. Rhmeuk 09:30, 12 May 2007 (UTC) I DISAGREE. The currently unused northbound Platform 4 could be extended in a southeasterly direction alongside the LSP carpark, allowing returning commuters who live in the south of Liverpool to disembark at LSP, thus saving them the psychologically frustrating journey into Lime Street and back out again. The potential space limitation would only apply to the currently unused southbound Platform 3, where I agree it is not possible to extend. However, it is unlikely that passengers would wish to alight from the Virgin trains here as they would only have got on at Lime Street where the service began, and there are numerous trains from Lime Street to LSP. There is a need for outbound commuters to be able to join the Virgin trains at LSP without having to go into town and back out again, and they could do so if the Virgin trains offered a pick-up service only onto half of the carriages at LSP, with the other carriages kept locked whilst the train is stationary at LSP. (It is a lot easier for passengers getting on to do so onto half of the carriages and then find their seats once the train has set off, than if passengers from the entire train were rushing along to neighbouring carriages in order to get off, but as I explained above this is unlikely to be necessary as passengers getting on a cross-country Virgin train at Lime Street are generally heading further afield than LSP.)

South Parkway is a White Elephant
The station does not serve John Lennon airport as it a long way from it - a con.

It cost a fortune when this money could be better spent on re-using Merseyrail underground tunnels in the centre or building a proper train station at John Lennon airport.

The priority at Liverpool is:

1. Bringing into commission the disused tunnels under the city centre for Merseyrail.

'''2. Building an essential station at John Lennon airport with Merseyrail, Northern, WCML all served.

The above two points will propel the city forward. This South Parkways will do nothing at all.'''

''Virgin Trains services to London Euston do not serve the station and there are no plans to do so in the near future. The platforms are not long enough to accommodate Virgin's Pendolino trains, and the location of this station, with a bridge at the north end and Allerton Junction at the south end, makes platform extension difficult.''

Another reason why this station is waste of time - the London train can't stop there and it was supposed to stop. Those responsible for the building of this expensive white elephant should be sacked. They have lost the plot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Waterspaces (talk • contribs) 16:15, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Well for starters, Liverpool South Parkway is an interchange station and the closest you can get to John Lennon Airport. There simply isn't the land or space for a station by John Lennon Airport, that would require knocking down a few houses/shops in Speke, which is more pointless since there is already the West Coast Main Line running through northern Speke. In what way will building a station by the airport propel the city forward if it requires taking down nearly half of Speke.--390VirginPendolino390 (talk) 10:05, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Coordinate error
The following coordinate fixes are needed for Liverpool South Parkway railway station. Shouldn't the marker be at 53°21'27.93"N 2°53'22.75"W ? Check the aerial view. —76.105.145.143 (talk) 05:31, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * ❌. That's within five metres or so of the position indicated by the current coordinates, and doesn't seem more accurate in any meaningful way. (The OS grid ref, with only six digits, is somewhat less precise by its nature.) I'm going to leave things as they are for now; but if you still think a correction is needed, please post a new mesage below, using the geodata-check template and explaining more fully what error you're seeing. Deor (talk) 12:19, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

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“Merseytravel have repeatedly asked for a Virgin service from Liverpool South Parkway.” Maurice Oly (talk) 17:24, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

It's given a brief mention in the Long Term Rail Strategy, not sure that counts as 'repeatedly asked' LicenceToCrenellate (talk) 18:56, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

BTW, if you Google Liverpool City Region Long Term Rail Strategy the PDF is available, can't post the link on here, for some reason. LicenceToCrenellate (talk) 18:57, 12 March 2020 (UTC)