Talk:Liverpool West Derby (UK Parliament constituency)

2001 Liberal Second Place Claim
I don't think the following:

In the 2001 general election, it was the only constituency in which the runner-up represented a non-parliamentary party, namely the modern Liberal Party.

is entirely accurate; The claim is also repeated on Liberal Party (UK, 1989). There were a number of instances of "others" holding second: --New Progressive 21:38, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Brentwood and Ongar (UK Parliament constituency) - Martin Bell (Independent) comes second.
 * North Down (UK Parliament constituency) - Robert McCartney (UKUP) comes second.
 * Lagan Valley (UK Parliament constituency) - Seamus Close (Alliance) comes second.


 * Fair point. I've removed it for now, although if your counterexamples are the only ones, it could probably be re-worded so to exclude the Northern Irish cases (making it refer only to Great Britain), and as Bell was an "Independent" he wasn't strictly representing to a party as such.  The fact that the post-1988 Liberal Party beat the Liberal Democrats was so unusual that it probably deserves a mention somehow!  --RFBailey 22:28, 19 February 2006 (UTC)


 * As far as I am aware these are the only counter-examples: I've checked everywhere else that I seem to remember having a strong other party preference, and I can find nothing. For the record, I checked the People's Justice Party in Birmingham, the BNP in Oldham & Bradford and the Speaker's seat. I don't think there were any Save our [insert local service of your choice] candidates who did particularly well, except obviously Dr Taylor for IKHH winning in Wyre Forest. --New Progressive 23:44, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Robert Wareing's party affiliation
So far as I can find, the deselected current MP Robert Wareing has only said he would fight the next election as an Independent, and that he would leave the Labour Party soon. He has not yet actually done so, and is still listed as a Labour MP both on the Parliament website and on the Labour Party website. Ought we to hold off on changing his affiliation until there is confirmation he is no longer in receipt of the Labour whip? Sam Blacketer 08:40, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Well I changed his affiliation on the basis of his statement to the Liverpool Echo in which he said "The party I joined 60 years ago is not the same party I have now resigned from." I thought as resignation statements go, it was pretty clear. Here is the full article from the 17th of September:  Galloglass 09:26, 24 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm just a bit concerned that we seem to be ahead of all the other sources. It runs in my mind that it's not unknown for newly deselected MPs to say, in the heat of the moment, that they are resigning from their party, but then not actually go through with it. Sam Blacketer 09:51, 24 September 2007 (UTC)


 * On the Westminster website Bob Wareing is now listed as an Independent. -  Gallo glass  14:22, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

David Maxwell Fyfe
Is it necessary to have comments about his abilities as a lawyer - which may already be in his biographical article - when it would suffice to mention his time as MP for this seat and what office he achieved? He was not the only future Lord Chancellor to hold this seat - F E Smith was briefly MP 1918-19 (I will add details of him to give parity with DMF).Cloptonson (talk) 12:20, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Swing
How are the values for "swing" calculated? They don't seem to match up with the vote fractions. For example, 2005 election saw Labour the Labour candidate elected with 62.83% of the vote, ahead of the Lib Dem candidate who won 12.85% of the vote. 2010 saw the same parties come first and second, with 64.1% and 12.5% respectively. That's a shift in majority from 49.98% to 51.6% - an increase of 1.62 percentage points. This is somehow considered a swing of +3.2%.

In the next election Labour increased their share of the vote by 11%, the Lib Dems lost almost all of their vote, UKIP were the only non-Labour party to improve on their 2010 performance but only gained 5.4% - which is 5.6% less than Labour gained. Labour increased their majority by 16.1%, gained 22.3% on the Lib Dems (2010 second-place party), and gained 5.6% against UKIP (2015 second-place party). The table quotes a -2.8% swing. Where are these numbers from? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.20.253.39 (talk) 20:54, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

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