Talk:Living Dead

Only brain damage affects zombies
In DAY OF THE DEAD, clearly only direct brain damage can affect a zombie, "killing" it. In one of the movie scenes a zombie head is cut in half via a shovel attack and we can clearly see that the severed zombie head still functions as its eyes revolves back and forth (note that the shovel attack severed the head by its mandible, not damaging the skull and brain). In other scenes where the zombies get headshots, they clearly "dies".

We can assume that only direct brain damage turns off zombie drive to exist. --Officer Boscorelli (talk) 12:57, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Return of the Living Dad How Scary?
Should the series of films (films 4 & 5 are to be aired on the SciFi Channel) also be included in this article? It's closely related to Romero, but I'm unsure if it's created by him; it is afterall heavilly influenced by his series of films, and I think that is enough to include it. Also, are there other "living dead" films that should be included in this listing, or is Return of the Living Dead the only ones to have been excluded?

Fantaco did some Living Dead comics
Fantaco also did some Living Dead comics, to wit:

http://www.deadtrilogy.freeservers.com/photo3.html http://www.deadtrilogy.freeservers.com/photo3.html

Odd sentence fragment
"The films' only continuation is the epidemic of the living dead, the situation advancing with each film, but with different characters and even moving the time ahead from the last to the time in which they were filmed despite the world's progression being the only interlocking aspect of the series."

This to me does not feel grammatically correct and I am unsure what it is supposed to mean. 67.164.12.39 22:24, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

agreed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.91.138.180 (talk) 02:12, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Romero Zombies
''It is undetermined how the dead come back to life whether it's viral, chemical or magical(Vodoo). We only know that if bitten, anybody will turn into a Zombie. Infection can therefore spread really fast to pandemic levels and are hard to contain.''

This is inaccurate, not to mention contradicting. Romero Zombies aren't caused by infection. Anyone who dies, whether at the hands of a Zombie or by natural means, becomes a Zombie (if the brain remains intact). There are two explanations given for this in his films. In Night, the recently buried dead (i.e. corpses whose brains hadn't already decayed too much) began to rise around the same time a Venus space probe exploded in the Earth's atmosphere, leading scientists to believe the two events were related and the reanimation of the dead was caused by radiation from the space probe explosion. In Dawn, it was explained that "when there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth." Note that in the remake of Dawn, while the cause of the epidemic is unknown, it is in fact viral and spread by infection, and those who die by natural means do not become Zombies, but this is NOT the way it works in Romero's series. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.18.173.142 (talk) 18:01, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, you know what... yeah, you are right when I think about it now, that's how it happens. I was focused on the fact that you die and become a Zombie when bitten. But yeah, just dying is good enough.--Slamcool 19:35, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Since the "Venus space probe" theory is just that - a theory proposed by characters in the film, rather than a canonical explanation - and the exact cause is not known, I've made that clearer in the text. 81.98.163.108 (talk) 22:22, 30 September 2009 (UTC) - Its not a "theory" - its flat out stated the dead are rising in areas where the probes radiation is spreading.

"Romero's zombies are slow and shambling without exception"

If I remember correctly, in the original Night of the Living Dead, when some people attempt to fuel up a vehicle and drive away, some of the zombies run faster than the vehicle and catch up with it. This would suggest superhuman speed, not a slower more shambling speed. Promontoriumispromontorium (talk) 08:00, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

You don't remember correctly

Searching "living dead" does not work...
Unless the search is done using upper "D" you get redirected to undead automatically... It's kind of a problem. I mean, this page is good and is worth to be found easily ;) --Slamcool 19:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I've changed the redirect so living dead redirects here, and will add a redirect note to the top of this article in a minute. A case could also be made that the lower case version should go to Undead, but since I assume the denizens of Talk:Living Dead are probably more diehard than the Talk:Undead regulars, it's less risky to make you lot happy, and risk their wrath. --barneca (talk) 19:55, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The way you implmented it is perfect and it still offers a link to go to undead for the ones who really want to see the more generic term.--Slamcool 13:35, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Danél Griffin
Can someone tell me why Danél Griffin's observations are notable enough for this article? If no one has any problems, I'm going to remove it.--CyberGhostface (talk) 18:51, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Dance Of the Dead
I noticed that there is no mention about this remake.  D-BorG (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:40, 9 March 2009 (UTC).

Hexalogy
The movies are more than 3. So why do they call them Trilogy? A trilogy means 3 films. So should we change it to Hexalogy which is for 6? - Suicida (talk) 13:15, 8 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I also thinks that way... there's no more "trilogy", but a hexalogy yes. --Officer Boscorelli (talk) 12:58, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Notable Videogames
I would argue that the Left 4 Dead series could reasonably fall within parameters to be cited in this section. The campaigns feel like run-throughs of the assorted settings in Romero's films. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.23.149.209 (talk) 07:31, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

After some more snooping around, I think maybe a link to List of zombie video games might be a good alternative to listing individual items in this section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.23.149.209 (talk) 07:42, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * agreed Ottawa4ever (talk) 20:50, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * agreed . . . so Carpe diem ProResearcher (talk) 05:08, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Help needed! Plot summaries and more
Need help with the following:
 * Plot summaries: I haven't watched some of these movies so i can't write a good summary for them. If you've seen any of these, please take a look at the summaries already written and those (especially) that aren't and add them.
 * Night of the Living Dead (1974) - Couldn't find book info. If you have the book/know how to get the information (make sure its the 1974 edition) please add it.
 * References - We're also missing references for some of the stuff written. --Gonnym (talk) 21:51, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Updated question: Having done some work on this article i'm unsure about something and wanted to ask your opinions. George A. Romero's Dead series doesn't have its own article page for its 6 movies, while Dan O'Bannon's Return of the Living Dead series has one. I was thinking, we would either need to make a new page for the Dead series, or merge the living dead series into this one. Your thoughts? --Gonnym (talk) 15:55, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

A few more bits i found around the internet and will add them when i get the chance: Escape of the Living Dead, Escape of the Living Dead: Resurrected, Escape of the Living Dead Annual #1, Escape of the Living Dead: Airborne, Escape of the Living Dead: Fearbook, Night of the Living Dead, NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD 2011 Annual, NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD ANNUAL #1, NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD: Back From the Grave, NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD: The Beginning #1, NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD HOLIDAY SPECIAL #1
 * Comic books:


 * Do we want (short) plot summaries for the books? --Gonnym (talk) 19:40, 1 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi, Gonnym. My first impression of this article is that it has a lot of section headings. It leads to a table of contents that is too large. Could we use bullet points instead to list the films in a particular grouping? For example, in the "Homages" section, the four films could be listed via bullet points. As for the comic books, I think small plot summaries will work. It may help to read WP:PLOT, which basically says that works of fiction need to have real-world context. A plot summary is only meant to help understand that context, so it should be only a small portion of the article about the topic. Lastly, I think that a film series for Romero's films is a good idea. How about Night of the Living Dead (film series)? By the way, if you want others' help, you can go to WT:FILM and start a discussion there asking for input. Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 20:14, 1 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I was trying to go the way Harry Potter (film series) and James Bond (film series) went. Obviously, the Living Dead seems to have a lot more entries so it makes it too large. It might be also that the Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Son of the Bride... title makes it look even worse. Anyways I'm up for anything that'll make it better tbh. I'll create the Romero page you suggested. One question, what should be left of the Romero section on this page? --Gonnym (talk) 12:46, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

I can't work on it today (insomnia = too stupid to write properly) but I can try to help with the plot summaries. I haven't seen most of these for years so I'm thinking I'll take the longer plot summaries in the individual articles and trim them down to a 100-200 word blurb (since there's so many here I'm thinking shoot for the shorter end per Erik's comments). As long as nothing in the target articles is glaringly wrong, that method usually works out pretty well. It's what how I trim long plots for films I've never seen, essentially (just a shorter word count). I probably can't do anything that doesn't haven't an existing article. I'll have to double check to be sure but assume I'm useless for anything that would be a redlink. Millahnna (talk) 20:23, 1 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Anything you can do that will help is great! --Gonnym (talk) 12:46, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Fido as homage
Hi,

In which way Fido is not a zombie movie but an homage to one of the two Living Dead series? Because of Day of the Dead's Bub?

According to Zombie (fictional), as Night of the Living Dead reinvented the genre, a lot of post-1968 movies in the List of zombie films are kinds of homage. Isn't every genre movie an homage to its genre?

"Living Dead" and "of the Dead" are clear title signatures but for the rest of the zombie apocalypse...

Best regards, Lacrymocéphale 20:11, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Cleanup
This article is a real mess of original research. Unless someone can find citations for this stuff, it needs to be removed. It looks like it's been sitting like this for over a year. I'll see if I can find any references, but I think most of it will have to go. Also, there's way too many external links. If there's no opposition, I plan to remove them all; if people want to find relevant external links for these films, they can visit each page individually. We don't dump several dozen external links like that. See WP:NOTLINK and WP:ELNO for relevant policies. Finally, I agree with another person who commented here that Fido (and other films) really do need citations from reliable sources as homages. It should be trivially easy to find one for Shaun of the Dead, as that's an obvious and publicly stated homage, but the others... not so much. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:30, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Empire
Where does Empire of the Dead Act 1-3 fall? I only ask as it's written by George himself. It is clearly a sequel to the Original Night, as a character references what happened to Barbara after she was pulled out iof the house. Also, elements of Day and Land where Zombies exhibit behavior of past lives and some a shown to have an intelligence. But then there's vampires added into the mix. -69.181.252.139 (talk) 17:17, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

merge proposal
Best discussed at talk:zombie Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:26, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

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Overhaul of article
I plan on doing a major cleanup to this article. I have started making a plan for it on a sandbox of mine, heavily inspired by the Halloween (franchise) article. This will involve expanding on the films and their production; removing in-universe language (especially the Romero vs O'Bannon section); heavily rolling back on the unofficial sequels, homages, and parodies sections (each of those films don't need their own sub-section); and overall providing better sourcing to meet Wikipedia's standards. I can't do this all by myself, so I'll gradually introduce my changes over the next couple days (which may be incomplete), and encourage others to help out. Please discuss any feedback here. - Enter Movie (talk) 18:08, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I think I'm a bit opposed to your idea (from what I understand of it). It sounds like you are trying to make this article into one similar to Night of the Living Dead (film series), which already exists. As the lead section of this article says, it touches on all Living Dead related, so reducing the the unofficial sequels, homages, and parodies sections seems unhelpful here. --Gonnym (talk) 18:16, 24 August 2020 (UTC)


 * The goal is to tighten up the article in the vein of other Good horror franchise articles, like Halloween (franchise), with the main focus being on the films. In regards to Night of the Living Dead (film series), I was going to suggest merging that and Return of the Living Dead (film series) into the article. When things are cleaned up, as in Halloween (franchise) (which I followed here), each film won't need its own individual sub-section, so things will look a lot cleaner and more straightforward. Unofficial sequels, homages, and parodies take up way too much space in the article as it stands; I wouldn't remove them all, but I wouldn't include them all. You don't see, for example, the Friday the 13th article containing references to Shriek If You Know What I Did Last Friday the 13th, Stan Helsing, Scary Movie, etc. - Enter Movie (talk) 18:35, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * If that is the goal than I'm opposed. This isn't a Halloween (franchise) situation. Don't make this into a single "official" film series article, as it isn't this article. --Gonnym (talk) 18:42, 24 August 2020 (UTC)


 * What kind of issues are you foreseeing? Perhaps there's something I can remediate. I was under the impression that the article is about the franchise, about the films and follow-ups based on or continuing from Night of the Living Dead. However, I admit that a major overhaul should receive more feedback before it is implemented, so I am not going to do massive changes yet. I propose a more comprehensive discussion inviting members of WikiProject Horror to gather consensus. - Enter Movie (talk) 19:06, 24 August 2020 (UTC)


 * On second thought, it may be better to completely scrap this article. My thought process is Romero's films and the Return of the Living Dead films are separate series, so the two franchise articles are sufficient. "Living Dead" as a franchise is not really used in the media, as it is not an acknowledged term; a Google search of "living dead franchise" yields results back to Wikipedia. I shall think more about this. - Enter Movie (talk) 19:11, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Day of the Dead syfy series
In 2021 Syfy made a spinoff remake whatever tv series called Day of the Dead, with a lot of references to the Romero movie. Shouldn't it be deserving of mention? Also, is it official or canon in any way? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Very scholarly name (talk • contribs) 19:34, 8 March 2022 (UTC)