Talk:Living in the Material World (song)/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Seabuckthorn (talk · contribs) 16:00, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Nominator: JG66 (talk)

Hi! My review for this article will be here shortly. -- Seabuckthorn   ♥  16:00, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

1: Well-written
 * a. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:
 * b. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:

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 * 5) ** Major Point 1: Background "" ( not a concise summary of the corresponding section in the body )
 * 6) ** Major Point 2: Composition "In the song's lyrics, Harrison presents a contrast between the world of material things and his spiritual goals, and the conflicting themes are represented in the musical arrangement, via juxtaposing sections in the rock genre and an Indian music setting.", "The song addresses the need to escape the constant cycle of reincarnation and so attain moksha in the Hindu faith." & "Harrison references his Beatles past as one of the trappings of the material world and refers by name to former bandmates John Lennon, Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr. The latter played drums on the recording, while the other contributing musicians include Jim Horn, Gary Wright and Jim Keltner." (summarised well in the lead)
 * 7) ** Major Point 3: Production ( not a concise summary of the corresponding section in the body )
 * 8) ** Major Point 3.1: Initial recording "In a production that is highly regarded by some commentators, the rock portions of "Living in the Material World" include a slide guitar solo by Harrison, saxophone, two drummers and prominent Hammond organ, whereas the meditative Indian interludes feature Zakir Hussain on tabla and a rare post-Beatle sitar performance by Harrison." (summarised well in the lead)
 * 9) ** Major Point 3.2: Overdubbing "" ( not a concise summary of the corresponding section in the body )
 * 10) ** Major Point 4: Release and album artwork "The contrasts presented in "Living in the Material World" inspired both a photograph by Ken Marcus that appeared inside the album's gatefold cover and designer Tom Wilkes's incorporation of Krishna-related symbolism elsewhere in the packaging." & "In addition to providing the title for the Living in the Material World album, the song inspired Harrison's choice for a name for his charity, the Material World Charitable Foundation, to which he donated his publishing royalties from the composition." (summarised well in the lead)
 * 11) ** Major Point 5: Reception "" ( not a concise summary of the corresponding section in the body )
 * 12) ** Major Point 6: Subsequent releases and legacy "Film-maker Martin Scorsese also used the title for that of his 2011 documentary on the life of George Harrison." ( not a concise summary of the corresponding section in the body )
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 * 15) ** Major Point 2: Composition "In the song's lyrics, Harrison presents a contrast between the world of material things and his spiritual goals, and the conflicting themes are represented in the musical arrangement, via juxtaposing sections in the rock genre and an Indian music setting.", "The song addresses the need to escape the constant cycle of reincarnation and so attain moksha in the Hindu faith." & "Harrison references his Beatles past as one of the trappings of the material world and refers by name to former bandmates John Lennon, Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr. The latter played drums on the recording, while the other contributing musicians include Jim Horn, Gary Wright and Jim Keltner." (the lead gives due weight as is given in the body)
 * 16) ** Major Point 3: Production ( the lead does not give due weight as is given in the body )
 * 17) ** Major Point 3.1: Initial recording "In a production that is highly regarded by some commentators, the rock portions of "Living in the Material World" include a slide guitar solo by Harrison, saxophone, two drummers and prominent Hammond organ, whereas the meditative Indian interludes feature Zakir Hussain on tabla and a rare post-Beatle sitar performance by Harrison." (the lead gives due weight as is given in the body)
 * 18) ** Major Point 3.2: Overdubbing "" ( the lead does not give due weight as is given in the body )
 * 19) ** Major Point 4: Release and album artwork "The contrasts presented in "Living in the Material World" inspired both a photograph by Ken Marcus that appeared inside the album's gatefold cover and designer Tom Wilkes's incorporation of Krishna-related symbolism elsewhere in the packaging." & "In addition to providing the title for the Living in the Material World album, the song inspired Harrison's choice for a name for his charity, the Material World Charitable Foundation, to which he donated his publishing royalties from the composition." (the lead gives due weight as is given in the body)
 * 20) ** Major Point 5: Reception "" ( the lead does not give due weight as is given in the body )
 * 21) ** Major Point 6: Subsequent releases and legacy "Film-maker Martin Scorsese also used the title for that of his 2011 documentary on the life of George Harrison." ( the lead does not give due weight as is given in the body )
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2: Verifiable with no original research
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I'm glad to see your work here. I do have some insights based on the above checklist that I think will improve the article :
 * I think the lead can be improved in order to provide an accessible overview and to give relative emphasis.

Besides that, I think the article looks excellent. You've done great work, and I am quite happy to assist you in improving it. All the best, --  Seabuckthorn   ♥  09:15, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey Seabuckthorn, thanks for your compliments, you're really very generous. Made quite a few additions to the lead, to address the issues you raised. And you're quite right – the lead definitely needed more. But I'm slightly surprised that you include the Overdubbing subsection in with the other problem areas. There does seem quite a bit from that, spread throughout the lead, no? (Although, I admit a "concise summary" has not been achieved – but that would be hard to do, I suggest.) Anyway, see what you think now ... Best, JG66 (talk) 16:40, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks You're right. I misjudged the Overdubbing subsection. Apologies. --  Seabuckthorn   ♥  19:18, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Promoting the article to GA status. -- Seabuckthorn   ♥  19:18, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm really pleased to get this one through,, because it's such a major statement within George Harrison's work. (I don't mind admitting I had to get a bit of an education first on the subject of reincarnation, before starting on the article.) Thanks so much for your help! JG66 (talk) 22:40, 6 February 2014 (UTC)