Talk:Living wage in the United Kingdom

Living Wage Foundation long list
Given that the Living Wage Foundation is an unofficial accreditation scheme, I reckon the partial but still long list of employers in the article is unnecessary and reads rather like a promotion for the companies and the Living Wage Foundation. Wikipedia is not here to advertise them. People interested in such lists can no doubt find them on the Living Wage Foundation's web site; or alternatively perhaps it could go in an article specific to the Living Wage Foundation (none currently exists). Hence I've cut it to here:


 * Allen & Overy
 * Aviva
 * Barclays
 * BrewDog
 * Clifford Chance
 * Heart of Midlothian F.C.
 * F.C. United of Manchester
 * Herbert Smith Freehills
 * KPMG
 * Linklaters
 * Nestlé UK
 * Oxfam
 * Save the Children
 * Scottish Government
 * Slaughter and May
 * Transport for London
 * Yorkshire Water

Ben Finn (talk) 10:58, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Integrate article into the United Kingdom section of the Living Wage article
I would like to suggest that this article should be integrated into the United Kingdom section of the Living Wage article. Any comments? - BobKilcoyne (talk) 06:34, 5 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Over the last few months the article has become dominated by the National Living Wage (NLW) section. This is problematic because (as is admitted by some commentators) the NLW does not fulfil the technical definition of a Living Wage, and has a different numerical value. As can be seen from the NLW's legal origins as an amendment to the UK's legal minimum wage, it is little more than a renaming of (and increase in) the minimum wage that already existed. The Living Wage in the UK, on the other hand, is calculated by the Living Wage Foundation and is "the minimum income necessary for a worker to meet their basic needs". This is something which might happen to coincide with the NLW, but it is a different concept and will usually have a different value.


 * Currently everything to do with the NLW is crammed into the single NLW section, making it look like this article is what it actually is – one article with another embedded into it. On the other hand, there is a "National Minimum Wage" page on Wikipedia. It was created last summer as a redirection page to here. I suggest that we move the NLW content onto that page and then consider whether the remainder should be moved to the "Living Wage" article. Any objections? Polly Tunnel (talk) 16:48, 30 March 2016 (UTC)


 * UPDATE – The move of the NLW section has now been ✅. We can now consider BobKilcoyne's original suggestion that we integrate the remaining article into the United Kingdom section of the living wage article. Polly Tunnel (talk) 18:15, 1 April 2016 (UTC)