Talk:Living with Fibromyalgia

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Change the link to the YouTube URL. It's "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDNeh_OSqrg" without the last "/" (Currently, the link leads to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDNeh_OSqrg/, the / makes the URL deformed.

- Actually nevermind, I did it myself.

- However, a bot changed it back. So it's still a deformed URL.

Author, conflict of interest??
The person that wrote this article w/o any sources had alot of personal knowledge about the film and film makers and called them self, "Geakerson" the film maker was named Akers, this may be a coincidence but i think it is a person close to the film maker or another COI and i notice some one w/ this name and the film maker are posting at comment sites together before, there is a link i think. I am putting the COI tag so people know it could be connection, when there is not COI please will the author explain. I fixed some from the POV stuff in article, but the author, major contributor may have COI. RetroS1mone  talk  13:09, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Marketing link
It is ok, to have marketing link in external links when it is official site for film, it is not ok, put film order page in article like it is a source for sth, it is why I said, I think the article is advertisement. Stuff in article needs have independant sources, the films own marketing order form is not independnat source. RetroS1mone  talk  13:15, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It's quite obvious that you have a stake in the destruction of this article as can be shown by the edit history and your weak reasons for an AfD. But you yourself put the fact needed tag on the statement about donating 10% of the profits. well if you actually read the ref, although it's the order page it also states quite categorically that 10% will be donated. Therefore this ref supports the prose to which it refers. I've also given an additional ref to support it too. Given your history of articles about FM and CFS I think you have an agenda of some sort and as a result you seem hellbent on destroying this article for your purposes, not for the improvement of the project. Further I'm thinking of returning the CoI tag due to the fact that you seem to have a negative conflict of interest of some sort. -- Web H amster  13:22, 17 July 2009 (UTC)


 * My interest is, i do not think it should be articles on Wikipedia w only sources as marketing links and copies from marketing links and schedules when a self-help group shows a movie some one made and a college newsletter. Pls look up WP:RS. RetroS1mone   talk  13:26, 17 July 2009 (UTC)


 * PS "talk about sleep" is a nonrs, it is a self help group message board and obvious, it was probably copied from the marketing site. RetroS1mone   talk  13:30, 17 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Primary sources can be used to support the statements made by the filmmakers. Additionally, the Talk About Sleep reference does not refer to the message boards, it refers to an actual article on the website. As for your "probably" statement, well unless you know I suggest you not guess. I am well aware of WP:RS, a lot longer than you. So may I suggest you quit with the holier-than-thou lectures. I also suggest you look up the definition of "context" as you seem to have a little difficulty in that area. May I also recommend that if you wish to improve the article then quit removing things from it and try adding things to it. -- Web H amster  13:40, 17 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I have warned User:RetroS1mone to heed 3RR for his reversions to versions not met by consensus or discussion, as he is removing policy required verification of a premire date... shown in reliable sources. MichaelQSchmidt (talk) 05:24, 19 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes after i warned you after you went over 3RR all ready, i also warn for your OR, you do not say this person was sworn in as President and use a advertisement which says, the inaguration is next Tuesday, you use a news article from after the inauguration, you are saying the film had premeire on the date, but you are using sources from before the date. And you are using blogs and marketing website for film. Pls read WP:NF and WP:RS. RetroS1mone   talk  05:28, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I know how to edit. I made two reversions of some non-consensual deletions and then modified one sentence. It is you who are pushing 3RR, pushing a personal POV, and engaging in an edit war. Those actions will be obvious to any admin looking at the article's history. Please read WP:CIV, WP:NPOV, and WP:CONSENSUS. Thank you. MichaelQSchmidt (talk) 05:32, 19 July 2009 (UTC)


 * A RS is a fact-checked thing, is a schedule in a paper RS, it is a person phones and says, hey pls put my movie in your paper tomorrow, it is primary and your doing OR. This article is all from primary and advertisement and blogs, that is why I say, not notable. I do not have a POV about this film i am sure it is a great film but it is not notable when NO RS reviews it and NO RS talks about it, pls stop cluttering wiki w this kind of "sources." RetroS1mone   talk  05:40, 19 July 2009 (UTC)


 * A Reliable source is a paper with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. San Diego Union-Tribune qualifies. An announcement that the film would premiere on a certain date and time is simple, clear, and uncontroverted. If it had not premiered, that might likely have gotten a bigger blurb the follwing day. Please, if you can source that it did not premiere at the date and time the paper says, by all means share that source. And it is important to remember that Policy does not demand that all sources be significant and in-depth... as the simple fact of date is not an assertion of notability, it is allowed and expected to be sources in RS. It has been. Thank you. MichaelQSchmidt (talk) 05:49, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Fact there is not follow-up, says, this film is not notable. The film has no RS reviews or also mentioning it in RS news articles. A paper w reputation for fact checking is a RS for news articles, schedule of what movie is showing at 9 and who is lecture at local university tomorrow is not RS for a wikipedia article, it is primary source and you are doing OR. RetroS1mone   talk  05:53, 19 July 2009 (UTC) RetroS1mone   talk  05:53, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

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