Talk:Liz Gunn

Link to follow up on - Children First Foundation
Dropping this 2001 news story here so it can be picked up on when someone has time. Would be good to know more about the Safe and Sound Appeal ("eventually wound up with $150,000 in its coffers") as well as the Children First Foundation (a quick Google didn't give me much to go on). https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/a-bad-day-for-the-forces-of-good/AJB56MDPWZP6LRWHSYU3P66UDU/ Elguaponz (talk) 01:45, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot been looking for this 122.57.226.17 (talk) 09:43, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

NZ Loyal candidates, 2023
Seems like this will be an evolving situation, so here's a run down of where the party seems to be at today:

List:

- Liz Gunn and Peter Drew are definitely on the list, as she says somewhere around 6 minutes in here: https://rumble.com/v3jjie6-mmp-and-elections-protest-party-vote-nz-loyal.html

- A third candidate, Philip George Engel, is on the official list (https://vote.nz/2023-general-election/about/2023-general-election/parties) but Gunn, in the video above, says that he's not actually running. This tallies with what has been reported elsewhere, but I think all those reports are sourced back to videos of Gunn's.

- Reports of a paperwork issue are right, but what exactly happened isn't clear. We know that most of the list candidates that they wanted to run are not registered. Everything we know has come from Gunn's comments - the Electoral Commission haven't said anything, and the rejected applications aren't public (as far as I know).

- The initial story was that the party made a mistake, which Gunn admitted, and that the person who was meant to file everything was too stressed(?) to get things done properly and on time.

- But in the video above, which was shot later, Gunn changes the story and says that the Electoral Commission are at fault because they didn't help enough. She seems to suggest that the party is going to lawyer up, and launch some kind of challenge. We will see.

Electorate seats:

- 29 candidates are shown on the website today. user:Hugo999 counted 28 yesterday, so things are obviously changing.

- Gunn is not one of the 29 candidates on the website.

- In the video above, dated 21 September, Gunn says they'll have 32 candidates.

- There are 33 New Zealand Loyal candidates in the spreadsheet available via https://vote.nz/2023-general-election/about/2023-general-election/electorate-candidates/ and Gunn is not one of them. (After posting this comment, I'll edit the article to include this reference.)

Elguaponz (talk) 22:07, 21 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Update: 30 candidates are on the party website now.
 * Elguaponz (talk) 21:42, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Barry Jones Young (aka Winston Smith) and leak of Te Whatu Ora data
Dropping links that might be useful here. Jones Young has taken vaccination-related data from Te Whatu Ora, published it online, and falsely claimed that it proves that covid vaccines cause deaths. To be clear: He is wrong, and he is not a data analyst. He is now being prosecuted for taking the data. Liz Gunn is mentioned in these articles but I don't know enough to say whether she has played a big enough part for it to warrant inclusion in her article. Her role has been to give Jones Young airtime and promote him as a "whistleblower". He has since gained international attention amongst the conspiracy crowd (hello, Infowars).

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/wellington/133391285/te-whatu-ora-worker-in-court-accused-of-illegally-accessing-databases-gets-bail--but-not-until-tuesday

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/301021743/te-whatu-ora-data-leaker-details-his-arrest-and-intentions-in-interview-with-prominent-conspiracy-theorist-alex-jones

https://docoflastresort.substack.com/p/liz-gunn-and-winston-smith-speak Elguaponz (talk) 03:46, 6 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Certainly worth noting at Te Whatu Ora. (And it’s Barry Young, not Jones.) — HTGS (talk) 23:37, 6 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for picking that up - I was in a rush and had Alex Jones at the front of my mind. Edited. — Elguaponz (talk)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 April 2024
Link the NZ loyal parts of her page to the NZ Loyal Wikipedia page 222.152.138.34 (talk) 09:38, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅, although the linked article should probably have more content.-Gadfium (talk) 09:43, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Seems to me that the right move would be to shift most of Liz_Gunn#New_Zealand_Loyal, which was written before NZ Loyal had its own article, to New Zealand Loyal?
 * Elguaponz (talk) 23:58, 9 April 2024 (UTC)