Talk:Lo-fi music/Archive 1

Black
Shouldn't it mention black metal somewhere? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.28.72.36 (talk) 10:50, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Lo-fi as a genre
I'd argue that lo-fi is less a genre than a way of recording music... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.217.130.126 (talk • contribs).
 * And I'd have to agree that it isn't really a genre. I think it's a bit more than just a way of recording music, though. The only reference attached to this article seems to call it an aesthetic, which I'd say that's more accurate. I'm going to slap a disputed tag on this article for now, because I'm not sure I know enough about the subject to change it. →smably 05:03, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

AllMusic calls it a Genre, but it's a very varried genre. The only real common aspect among the bands called lo-fi is the aesthetic of the music. Merriam-Webster defines genre as:
 * ''1 : a category of artistic, musical, or literary composition characterized by a particular style, :form, or content
 * 2 : KIND, SORT''

This definition could be interpreted to allow Lo-Fi to be called a genre. I personaly wouldn't define Lo-Fi as a genre though. Lewiscode 22:09, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I had always considered Lo-fi to be a genre from the early/mid 90s with its prime examples being Pavement and Cornershop. There's a list of dozens of bands but Cornershop is never mentioned ?? Blur is in the list, and I can't see why. Maybe their first album is of lower quality because of budget, I don't know but then every single band is a candidate. The rest of their work is of high sound quality.

Besides, it's not really Lo-fi if you're broke and use cheap/broken equipment if you have no choice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.202.201.3 (talk) 08:59, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

cite?
This article is too opinion heavy. By definition, lo-fi isn't the opposite of overproduction, it's the opposite of accurate production. Someone who uses tapes, has hiss in recordings, less clarity, more distortion is lo-fi. The goal of a good recording engineer is to reproduce sound accurately and authentically. 'Overproduction' usually occurs in the mixing phase, where parts are given 'gloss' through extensive and expert use of effects like reverb, pitch correction, equalization and compression. Let's not get mixed up here. Lo-fi is not authentic, it's shoestring budget music characterized by low attention to detail - it's put the mics up and play. Authenticism implies diligence, not laziness. What would this band sound like recorded by a minicassette recorder? Lo-fi. What would this band sound like in real life? Authentic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.192.43.101 (talk) 16:17, 12 October 2007 (UTC) geek

Yes, let's not get mixed up here. You are defining authentic/authenticism as something other than what it means. Please explain how you are using these words. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.186.186.51 (talk) 19:43, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps this article should mention that lo-fi practices aren't just made from low budgets?
The article states "Its use is usually due to the artist's financial limitations." but many garage rock revival bands use lo-fi techniques when their incomes most definitely do not require such. The White Stripes and The Strokes are quite possibly the two biggest modern garage bands and they use lo-fi techniques. (The Strokes didn't really do such in First Impressions of Earth but their first two albums practically define garage rock revival.) It creates a different sort of feel of the song and I'm positive many bands do it intentionally. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BrianRecchia (talk • contribs) 19:37, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

NPOV
"these spontaneous recordings made on portable equipment remain some of the most compelling music one can hear" NoJoy (talk) 19:15, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Self-Promotion/Verifiability
Deleting the section referencing the band "The Copied Copied" as no references are given and there are next to no internet references tot his band, besides their own Myspace page.--Genobeeno (talk) 21:15, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Multiple issues
Apart form the complete lack of sources there seem to be weazle words and some WP:OR here. I will stick this on my list of articles to clean up, but if anyone has time before me feel free to add citations and resolve the other issues.-- SabreBD  (talk)  16:42, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

More than rock and pop
This article treats lo-fi as if it were limited to rock and pop performers. Jazz, big band and swing-oriented performers should be included, for example Mocean Worker, Mr. Scruff, De Phazz, and Dzihan & Kamien, all of whom have released lo-fi recordings.49oxen (talk) 22:38, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Band List

Many of the most prominent bands are not listed. Sonic Youth, Big Black, Fugazi, The Replacements, ect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.186.186.51 (talk) 19:47, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Citation added
I added a citation because there was nothing to back up where the information was found. That being said I do not know if the source should be considered reliable. I welcome someone to question this but if you find the citation as 'faulty' either find a better reference or delete the information on the Wikipedia page because this blog that is cited is the only proof I can find that backs up "The term was adopted by WFMU DJ William Berger who dedicated a weekly half hour segment of his program to home recorded music throughout the late 1986 under the name Lo-Fi". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sophdoe (talk • contribs) 17:04, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Bedroom pop
While I think that the merge is okay, as bedroom pop had a lot of overlap, could we at least give it its own section/expand on what it is instead of condensing it? Bedroom pop is not the same as lo-fi music, it's 80s influenced and there were sources supporting that in the previous article for bedroom pop. The article for bedroom pop is so small that you could literally copy paste it in its own section and have that be that to a better effect. -- Aleccat  23:48, 9 March 2018 (UTC)


 * "Bedroom pop" = "home-recorded music" = "lo-fi" or "DIY". There is no difference. The only thing that seemed to make it stand out in the other article was "quiet, dreamy, textured sounds with heavy reverb" and "self-conscious, self-effacing lyrics" (I had to look through dozens of sources to find that much). But that's only because of how ubiquitous chillwave influences are nowadays. I think "bedroom pop" was made up by the NYT in 2006 once "lo-fi" started looking exclusively like an indie rock subgenre, but it's definitely not anymore - they did not anticipate the chillwave thing. --Ilovetopaint (talk) 15:35, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

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