Talk:Loch Ness Monster

"Exotic large animal"
In the section describing the animal as a possible plesiosaur, there is the following passage:
 * "In response to these criticisms, Tim Dinsdale, Peter Scott and Roy Mackal postulate a trapped marine creature that evolved from a plesiosaur directly or by convergent evolution.[150] Robert Rines explained that the "horns" in some sightings function as breathing tubes (or nostrils), allowing it to breathe without breaking the surface. Also new discoveries have shown that Plesiosaurs had the ability to swim in fresh waters, but the cold temperatures would make it hard for it to live."

Would I be justified in deleting this? It's embarrassingly desparate speculation, cited to a source I can't access, and seems intended to give WP:FALSEBALANCE. And even if it accurately summarizes the source, it's self-contradicting (how can something evolve from a plesiosaur by convergent evolution...to become more plesiosaur-like?). I honestly think the entire "exotic large animal" section is heavy on quasi-scientific speculation and poor sourcing and could be cut, but at the very least could we delete the passage above? WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 02:24, 7 July 2023 (UTC)


 * I would support deletion. HiLo48 (talk) 03:12, 7 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Mackal is a fringe source. See discussion about Mackal at the cryptozoology article. Looking at the references and current structure of the article, it needs serious work. We need to be focused on what experts on this topic—folklorists—have to say about it rather than individuals like Mackal. Almost all of it is going to need to be deleted and rewritten from scratch. There's far more to this topic than is covered here. &#58;bloodofox: (talk) 06:39, 7 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Undue weight template added beneath the section heading. Please revert if this was inappropriate.  Agreed that a rewrite is in order but I'm probably not the best one to do it. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 15:09, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Better picture needed?
File:Hoaxed photo of the Loch Ness monster.jpg The introductory picture, copied here, is of low quality (out of focus), and quite old (1934!). A better quality and more recent photograph should be provided. Opinions? 2A00:23C6:54D3:DA01:A02F:5E5C:EE34:8258 (talk) 14:35, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * it is the first. Slatersteven (talk) 14:43, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * A good fatih editor removed the picture citing copyright concerns. However the author M. A. Wetherell of the picture died in 1939 (hence any copyright has expired since 2009) according to Wikipedia.. The authorship and copyright information needs to be updated in the file details, but I do not know how to do it. 86.133.224.25 (talk) 06:32, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I think something else is going on, besides a "good faith editor's" actions. This article used to have the entire "Surgeon's Photo," but when I look through the history to find it again, They were all replaced by a photo of the Loch Ness Monster Roller Coaster in Virginia. So I wondered if somebody had replaced the original photo with a hoax photo. But the trouble with this is that the roller coaster photo doesn't have a history of an earlier version. (It's called Lochnessmonster.jpg.) So somebody must have deleted the original photo from WikiMedia Commons and put another photo in its place. (I don't know if it's possible to delete a photo from WikiMedia Commons, so I may be all wrong here.)

Anyway, does anyone know where I can find a copy of the full original photo? I believe I know how to fix this if I have the photo.
 * "fix it"? we do not "Improve" images. Slatersteven (talk) 10:36, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Search in recent news
there was an article by BBC recent about a large search taking place with a hundred volunteers, should it be placed into the search section? 1keyhole (talk) 23:17, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 November 2023
that a group of Nessies or loch ness monsters is called a choir, as in a choir of Nessies. 12.71.95.250 (talk) 15:41, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Not done per WP:V. - LuckyLouie (talk) 15:44, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

2023 Update
Hello, I am starting an update for 2023 under the "Searches" section to include information about a 90th anniversary hi tech search done in late August 2023. IntegrityForever (talk) 19:37, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Great! Bear in mind Facebook pages, tweets, blog posts, Youtube videos, and the Loch Ness Exploration website, and The New York Post and similar tabloids are not reliable WP:FRIND sources for an update. However Deutsche Welle would be a good source. As for the WP:SENSATIONAL claims of a 'new sighting', this may be most helpful. &#45; LuckyLouie (talk) 20:15, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you. IntegrityForever (talk) 21:11, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Good job, nice summary. &#45; LuckyLouie (talk) 21:37, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks! IntegrityForever (talk) 22:57, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

how long does loch ness monster live 138.75.45.157 (talk) 05:40, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Ask an RS, Slatersteven (talk) 10:36, 21 April 2024 (UTC)