Talk:Lockheed Martin RQ-170 Sentinel/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 09:04, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Comments
 * Lead feels a little short to me, I know it's a lot of hypotheticals but you could increase the description of the design and operational history I think.
 * ✅ -- added a bit, tell me if I need to add more. Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Put (USAF) after United States Air Force.
 * ✅ Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * "images and details on " -> "images and details of"
 * ✅ Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * The artist's rendering is very nice, but gives no feeling of scale at all, it could be as large as a B-2 Spirit...
 * Understood, would you like me to upload a file with dimensions on it? Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * It would be interesting to see what you mean by that. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!&#33;!&#33;) 15:40, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , like the same file with the text "Wingspan: 65 ft 7 in (19.99 m) Length: 14 ft 9 in (4.5 m)". Thanoscar21talk, contribs 15:50, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't know, perhaps it's okay. It might look weird with that text added.  I'd leave it.  The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!&#33;!&#33;) 15:53, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * "noted design similarities" what were those?
 * ✅ added. Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * "presumably for sensors or SATCOMs" according to whom? This is an encyclopedia so we can say we're presuming that.
 * ✅ -- right, couldn't find a source, so removed. Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * "characteristics have been released" officially?
 * ✅ found a source that the army has released info on it, can't believe no one saw that earlier. Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * "from 38 feet (11.5m) to 90 feet (27 m)." surely if the Iranian image is anything to go by this range of estimates can be refined significantly?
 * ✅ -- see above. Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * "Kandahar Airfield" link.
 * ✅ Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * "to the discussion of the RQ-170 Sentinel on 4 December 2009." what happened in that discussion?
 * ✅ -- should be sighting, fixed. Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * "AEW has... successfully" non-breaking space before the ellipsis.
 * ✅ Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * "is a flying wing design" overlinked.
 * ✅ Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * "electro-optical/infrared" link.
 * ✅. Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * "used for strike missions" so is it postulated that the UAV is weaponised?
 * That's used in speculation, so I'd leave it there. Payload could also mean various sensors and such. The "used for strike missions: could also mean the locating part of the strike; for example, it was used in the monitoring part of the strike against Osama bin Laden. Thanks, Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * "The New York Times" The is part of the title.
 * ✅ Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * "highly sensitive sensors capable of detecting"  are these postulated to be hyperspectral sensors?
 * ✅ -- The Atlantic says it is, so probably, yes. <span style="font-family:Avenir Next Condensed Demi Bold, Bahnschrift, Avenir, Segoe UI;">Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * "Anderson Air Force Base" -> Andersen.
 * ✅ <span style="font-family:Avenir Next Condensed Demi Bold, Bahnschrift, Avenir, Segoe UI;">Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * "led Bill Sweetman" no need for repeating first names if surname can be subsequently used unambiguously.
 * ✅ <span style="font-family:Avenir Next Condensed Demi Bold, Bahnschrift, Avenir, Segoe UI;">Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * "Phil Finnegan, a UAV..." why is this a long quote? Why not paraphrase it into prose?
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 * "expected that they would be" -> "expected to be"
 * ✅ <span style="font-family:Avenir Next Condensed Demi Bold, Bahnschrift, Avenir, Segoe UI;">Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * "report, Bill Sweetman argued" same  again.
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 * "on 1 September 2005" vs "September 4, 2009." pick one format and stick with it throughout.
 * ✅. <span style="font-family:Avenir Next Condensed Demi Bold, Bahnschrift, Avenir, Segoe UI;">Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * "Aviation Week reported" italics.
 * ✅ <span style="font-family:Avenir Next Condensed Demi Bold, Bahnschrift, Avenir, Segoe UI;">Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * "fitted with a full motion video capability" wouldn't that have been part of the EO/IR capability already mentioned?
 * I believe that EOs are lasers and such, and infrared doesn't capture visible light. Correct me if I'm wrong. <span style="font-family:Avenir Next Condensed Demi Bold, Bahnschrift, Avenir, Segoe UI;">Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Well FMV can be EO or IR. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!&#33;!&#33;) 14:28, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, I've removed it. <span style="font-family:Avenir Next Condensed Demi Bold, Bahnschrift, Avenir, Segoe UI;">Thanoscar21talk, contribs 15:12, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * "electronic warfare unit[30][31][32][33] had" four cites? look to bundle them if absolutely necessary, and I would move it to the end of the sentence as it looks awkward.
 * ✅ <span style="font-family:Avenir Next Condensed Demi Bold, Bahnschrift, Avenir, Segoe UI;">Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Define ISAF before using the abbreviation.
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 * "the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps aerospace" overlinked.
 * ✅ <span style="font-family:Avenir Next Condensed Demi Bold, Bahnschrift, Avenir, Segoe UI;">Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * "Tasnim news agency" news agency is part of the title.
 * ✅ <span style="font-family:Avenir Next Condensed Demi Bold, Bahnschrift, Avenir, Segoe UI;">Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * "44th Reconnaissance Squadron - Creech Air Force Base, Nevada" " en-dash, not hyphen.
 * ✅ <span style="font-family:Avenir Next Condensed Demi Bold, Bahnschrift, Avenir, Segoe UI;">Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * "Data from [43]" put the name of the source here.
 * ✅ <span style="font-family:Avenir Next Condensed Demi Bold, Bahnschrift, Avenir, Segoe UI;">Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * "38 ft (12 m) [43]" no spaces before refs.
 * ✅ <span style="font-family:Avenir Next Condensed Demi Bold, Bahnschrift, Avenir, Segoe UI;">Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * "The American built RQ-170 in Iran." no full stop.
 * ✅ <span style="font-family:Avenir Next Condensed Demi Bold, Bahnschrift, Avenir, Segoe UI;">Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * In what sense are those "Related development" related?
 * The Shahed 171 Simorgh and the Saegheh (UAV) are the copies Iran made after downing the RQ-170. The others aren't related, so I've removed them. Thanks, <span style="font-family:Avenir Next Condensed Demi Bold, Bahnschrift, Avenir, Segoe UI;">Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Are those copies mentioned in the prose? If not, why not?  The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!&#33;!&#33;) 14:31, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yep, it is mentioned in the prose. <span style="font-family:Avenir Next Condensed Demi Bold, Bahnschrift, Avenir, Segoe UI;">Thanoscar21talk, contribs 15:05, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * You link the work in ref 2 but not many of the others?
 * ✅, linked the rest. <span style="font-family:Avenir Next Condensed Demi Bold, Bahnschrift, Avenir, Segoe UI;">Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Ref 16, WaPo is a work and needs italics. Compare with ref 35.
 * ✅. <span style="font-family:Avenir Next Condensed Demi Bold, Bahnschrift, Avenir, Segoe UI;">Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Ref 44, author isn't "Daily Telegraph".
 * ✅. <span style="font-family:Avenir Next Condensed Demi Bold, Bahnschrift, Avenir, Segoe UI;">Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Are those external links useful for material to go into the article?
 * Rm one of the extrenal links, the other ones are just pictures and the official fact sheet, I think those are fine. <span style="font-family:Avenir Next Condensed Demi Bold, Bahnschrift, Avenir, Segoe UI;">Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Template: "designations 1924-1962" should be en-dash, also same applies "1962-present".
 * If I cmd/ctrl F "1924" I don't see anything, this plane was built in the 2000s, so there shouldn't be anything that says 1924. Thanks, <span style="font-family:Avenir Next Condensed Demi Bold, Bahnschrift, Avenir, Segoe UI;">Thanoscar21talk, contribs 14:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The template at the bottom of the article says "USAAF/USAF UAV designations 1924-1962, tri-service designations 1962-present". The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!&#33;!&#33;) 15:15, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , changed. Thanks, <span style="font-family:Avenir Next Condensed Demi Bold, Bahnschrift, Avenir, Segoe UI;">Thanoscar21talk, contribs 15:28, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

That's all I have for now, so I'll put it on hold. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!&#33;!&#33;) 10:19, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , I've implemented everything. Thanks, <span style="font-family:Avenir Next Condensed Demi Bold, Bahnschrift, Avenir, Segoe UI;">Thanoscar21talk, contribs 15:13, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'm content it's good enough, so I'm passing. Good work. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!&#33;!&#33;) 15:53, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , thank you for your time! <span style="font-family:Avenir Next Condensed Demi Bold, Bahnschrift, Avenir, Segoe UI;">Thanoscar21talk, contribs 15:57, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , thank you for your time! <span style="font-family:Avenir Next Condensed Demi Bold, Bahnschrift, Avenir, Segoe UI;">Thanoscar21talk, contribs 15:57, 22 March 2021 (UTC)