Talk:Lockheed R6V Constitution

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Special thanks to the archive researchers at the National Air and Space Museum for providing me with the SAE report and the Aviation Week articles on which I based this article.

Transcontinental flights
My current understanding of the transcontinental flights by the two Constitution follows: I will update this article as my understanding changes or grows. Willy Logan 00:16, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
 * The first (163) made its flight in July, 1948, and this was the occasion on which the ship was christened at Washington Nat'l. (The cited Aviation Week article describes this, although I had previously attributed this to the second ship.)
 * The second (164) made its first transcontinental flight in February, 1949, straight to Washington Nat'l. (A photograph in the February 14, 1949 issue of Time has a caption stating that this was the aircraft's first flight across the country. The front-page photograph of the plane's arrival in the Washington Post clearly displays the "164" on the nose.)

I spent some time exploring the Constitution number 2 at Opalocka in the late 1960s. The aircraft was to have been converted to a flying restaurant or some such. It was not 'torched' by vandals, but in an insurance scheme.

The damage was actually slight. The aircraft was not scrapped at Opalocka but some miles away where it had been moved. I also had a chance to discuss the airplane with Tony LeVier at the IPMS convention in Miami during 1968. The aircraft was underpowered according to him. I realize this personal knowledge is classified as 'original research' (and indeed I did explore the airplane) so I have not bothered to post this on the page.

This information is given for those who might wish to know. Mark Lincoln Mark Lincoln (talk) 20:52, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

My apologies for a BIG mistake
Everyone, I'm very sorry that an attempted good faith edit of mine caused nearly the entire page to be blanked. I was in the middle of editing the external links section only (or so I thought) when Firefox crashed out on me, likely because I had far too many tabs open. When Firefox restored my tabs, somehow instead of my editing what I thought was just the external links section I was apparently editing the entire article instead. I still don't quite understand the mechanics of what happened, but I just wanted to ensure everyone that it was completely accidental, and I'm very sorry didn't catch the error on my own right after it happened. --Itsfullofstars (talk) 17:00, 14 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Very strange. I haven't done the exact same thing myself, but I have had wierd things happen in my edits. For the record, "External links" shows in your edit summary, meaning it was a section edit originally. - BilCat (talk) 19:44, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Surpassing the passenger record held by the Do X for two decades
This should probably be mentioned here: According to SPIEGEL online http://einestages.spiegel.de/static/topicalbumbackground/4757/groessenwahn_hoch_x.html the Lockheed R6V Constitution took over the passenger record held for two decades by the Dornier_Do_X. (Unfortunately the article is in German, but it does have 19 nice photographs of the Do X.) Epsiloner (talk) 13:49, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Both airplanes were lemons. Mark Lincoln (talk) 10:36, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

JATO
The R6O also tested JATO takeoffs with six rockets mounted on the rear of the fuselage. I saw a video on Youtube where the rockets were mounted in the wings. Vgy7ujm (talk) 03:04, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Similar to Boeing ?
Is this aircraft not very similar to the Boeing Stratocruiser ? It seems curious to me that it is not not included on the list of comparable aircraft. Eregli bob (talk) 09:44, 21 September 2012 (UTC)


 * The Constitution is a lot larger then the Stratocruiser so not really comparable. MilborneOne (talk) 18:18, 21 September 2012 (UTC)


 * The Constitution was not comparable to the Stratocruiser. The R6V was much larger and either underpowered or deficient in real-world performance, take your pick. Tony LeVier was slightly surprised to learn the #2 aircraft still existed and was parked at Opa-Locka in 1968. The R6V had volume to spare but with any heavy load the range was seriously limited. The Navy had the two prototypes and used them but no more were purchased for sound reasons.

Mark Lincoln (talk) 10:34, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

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