Talk:Lod Airport massacre

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What was the aim of this massacre?


 * To inflict fear/terrorize the public. As noted in the article, the attackers killed people relatively randomly, killing mostly Christian pilgrims.  MG196 15:07, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually most of the civilian casualties were done by Israeli security. They blamed it on the JRA fighters afterwards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.79.232.194 (talk) 18:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Huge NPOV problem in this article. --Stephenzhu 01:33, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

The aim of the so-called massacre was to take over the control tower in support of a larger PFLP operation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.79.232.194 (talk) 20:09, 22 September 2010 (UTC)


 * It looks to me as if the article is presenting a list of facts. I dont see any POV issues whatsoever.  But, considering eye of the beholder and all that, please be specific.  MG196 15:07, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

I find the last statement, that the samurai scene from "The Life of Brian" might represent Japanese participation in the Lod Massacre very, very unlikely. I think it is more likely that the samurai are included because they had a heritage of suicide. I am going to delete this passage. --Minarelli 12:58, 30 May 2008 (GMT)

List of victims
Hello.

What is the source for the list of victims? isn't a citation needed?

I have a good reason to suspect that the list is not accurate, Since my grandmother, who was murdered in this event, does not appear in it (or were they lying to me all those years?)

Yohai.bs (talk) 19:37, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Hello, Im an investigator and Im trying to locate the family of the victims in this Massacre, specifically the Puerto Rico victims. Please contact me at: fernandofernandezpr@hotmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.45.76.132 (talk) 00:18, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

It seems 26 killed includes 2 of the perpetrators. Menachemsdavis (talk) 22:05, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism
This article but repeats the position of Western media and completely ignores what actually happened on that day! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.91.58.51 (talk) 12:22, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Can you provide sources that contradict the position of western news sources?-- K orr u ski Talk 13:54, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

There is http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E8%B5%A4%E8%BB%8D%E2%80%951969%E2%86%922001-KAWADE%E5%A4%A2%E3%83%A0%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF/dp/4309976018 I posted this before, but it seems to have been lost some time ago by vandalism of Western foreigners —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.166.181.143 (talk) 13:01, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, I cannot read this, but it doesn't appear to me to be a particularly reliable source. Can you explain more about what, exactly, it says?-- K orr u ski Talk 09:14, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

They are interviews and articles written by living JRA fighters. My other sources either refer to this book, or is from the remaining "RED ARMY" factions in Japan, the "MOVEMENT RENTAI" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.172.186.59 (talk) 14:01, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * In that case they are primary sources with a clear potential for bias, and their use should be avoided.-- K orr u ski Talk 14:05, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

It is much more trustworthy than outright propaganda published by the Western media; for example, they claim that the object of the attack was to kill civilians, and that all the victims were shot by the JRA fighters, while it becomes obvious to anybody who reads the information that it was in fact the Zionist security that caused a large part of the casualty. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.172.186.59 (talk) 02:26, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, your view simply isn't supported by Wikipedia policy, community consensus, or general journalistic standards. We shall have to agree to disagree but please do not continue to edit war on the article.-- K orr u ski Talk 09:01, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Lonna Sabah - Canadian Victim

Name is mispelled - should be Luna Sabbah Born in Morocco - married name is Sabbah original family name Abitbol

Please Correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.116.190.130 (talk) 22:59, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Any citations to back this up? From a quick google search, everybody says Lonna.  I can't find any mention of "Luna Sabah" involved in this. Mateinsixtynine (talk) 23:13, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Aviation incident
Its been decided after some talk, that this and other airport bombings or massacres are not to be put in aviation accident templates or categorized as a aviation accident or incident. If you disagree, don't revert, but instead come over to this discussion and we'll listen to your opinion....William 19:55, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Violin cases, and who is copying from whom?
The claim that the weapons were held in "slim violin cases" was added by an anon in 2007 without bringing a source. I'm wondering how solid this information is. Previously the text just read "slim cases", which matches many good sources I could find that just refer to luggage. I do see "violin cases" in some recent sources, but I'm not sure if they are authoritative rather than just copying off each other. Speaking of copying, this book published in 2011 contains a verbatim copy of a paragraph that we had here in 2008. Zerotalk 13:16, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 May 2017
Kōzō Okamoto first name should always be written with long vowels, and not as 'Kozo'. Please correct. Lancioni (talk) 15:07, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done DRAGON BOOSTER   ★  16:02, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

The weapon description in the summary of the article is not correct. Vz. 58 rifles were used, not AK-47 (completely different guns)... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Druggula (talk • contribs)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 20:11, 14 June 2017 (UTC)


 * There are many reliable sources confirming this. E.g. The 50 Worst Terrorist Attacks By Edward F. Mickolus, Susan L. Simmons . But mainly - it is already correctly described in the wiki article itself with proper source. Only the summary is wrong. —Druggula (talk) 11:45, 15 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Can you please tell us which page it's on? The books link itself for me isn't enough to be considered useful in the case. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) 21:08, 1 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) 00:18, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

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Edit Request
The weapons used were vz. 58 assault rifles, which actually aren't Kalashnikovs at all — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.246.51.117 (talk) 04:20, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Aftermath
Request to add the assassination of Ghassan Kanafani, then spokeperson of of the PFLP, by Mossad as a response to the attack. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.107.240.147 (talk) 08:47, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 30 May 2019
In the section "Aftermath" it is claimed that Okamato could have been given the death penalty, however Israel has all but abolished the death penalty and doesn't have pleas, only plea bargains. 93.172.97.189 (talk) 12:47, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. A source cited in the article that says Okamoto "managed to avoid the death penalty by pleading guilty." Do you have a different source that says something contradictory? – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:41, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Weapons listed in sidebar are incorrect.
The article correctly states that Czech vz. 58 rifles were used however the sidebar summary says "Kalashnikov assault rifles" were used. These are two different types of weapons that are only superficially similar. Sidebar should be updated to match the article.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.106.232.159 (talk) 00:35, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:37, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

North Korean response to the lawsuit
I couldn't find any information pertaining to North Korean government responding to the verdict of the lawsuit. Can anyone provide some information about that? Rozchwierutany (talk) 14:12, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 30 May 2022
The introductory sentence is very long: 53 words plus several numbers and one acronym. Please change "1972, in which three" to "1972. Three"  This will leave us with one sentence of 12 words and one of 39 words — still very long, but not as bad. 49.198.51.54 (talk) 23:26, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Done, and I cut out "the Palestinian group called" also. DarthFlappy 14:18, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 31 May 2022
Just another request to condense the intro a little. Please remove

Katzir was head of the Israeli National Academy of Sciences and a popular scientific radio show host; he was also a candidate in the upcoming Israeli presidency election.

and add

Katzir was head of the Israeli National Academy of Sciences, a popular scientific radio show host, and a candidate in the upcoming Israeli presidential election.

49.198.51.54 (talk) 22:48, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * PS, "presidency election" is wrong, so I tweaked my request to include a correction. 49.198.51.54 (talk) 22:49, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ DarthFlappy 18:43, 1 June 2022 (UTC)