Talk:Lodsys

Patent Troll under See Also
My previous edit, listing Lodsys as a patent troll, was deleted. I will not go into suspicions that this was done by a Lodsys representative, but taking the definition of the term and Lodsys' website presentation, company activities and media coverage, this is clear and undeniable fact. I have foregone replacing the placed euphemism "patent licensing company" and linked to the Patent Troll description under See Also, please do not again give into personal opinion and remove this. 82.95.25.120 (talk) 11:49, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It is not up to editors to characterize a subject. The best approach is to find a reliable source and report that source's characterization.--Nowa (talk) 13:50, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The pre-existing and current adjective is a synonym.
 * Additionally, with any online media - their own website included - you'll be hard-pressed to find anything that *doesn't* indicate their company activities as registering patents but not using them, instead suing companies that use existing models and similar concepts to commercially exploit them.
 * According to the Lodsys website (FAQ section) it's the best way to "sell" "their inventions" in lieu of a sales department. 82.95.25.120 (talk) 16:54, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * You should probably take a moment and read the Patent Troll article. If you did, you'd see that the term has no clear definition and carries a negative connotation.  The first sentence specifically says that it is a pejorative term, and as Nowa points out, it is not up to editors to characterize an entity in either a positive or negative light.  Later in the article it states that, "Patent troll is currently a controversial term, susceptible to numerous definitions, none of which are considered satisfactory from the perspective of understanding how patent trolls should be treated in law."  Finally, at the end of the article it states that one of the problems with the term is that, "most U.S. universities and many individual inventors, for example, Thomas Edison would fall under this definition."


 * And of course, there's the definition of pejorative: "Words or grammatical forms that connote negativity and express contempt or distaste." Consider if we were to all follow your example.  Do we really want Cracker (pejorative) in the See Also section of every single article about a white person?  Technically, according to the definition (essentially any white person), the term would apply.


 * I'm removing it. As Nowa said, if you can find a reliable source that uses the term, feel free to add it back, with an appropriate reference.  Skiguy330 (talk) 23:34, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

There seem to be a lot of reliable sources that refer to them as trolls: plus numerous blogs that I didn't bother including. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 21:31, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * CNN
 * Gizmodo
 * Business Insider Business Insider
 * San Francisco Chronicle
 * PC World
 * Mac World
 * ars technica
 * The Guardian
 * Washington Post
 * TUAW

Fine by me, as long as there are sources. Skiguy330 (talk) 21:42, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * At the moment it's listed - lets see how things shake out. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 23:05, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

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