Talk:Logan's Run (TV series)

Was this programme a science fiction series? If so, surely it should go in the category entitled "American science fiction TV series"? It seems to me that this would be a far more informative categorisation than to have categories such as "Ageism in fiction" at the end of the article. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 18:10, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Sorry if I misled any one - the category is actually entitled "American science fiction television series". Sorry about the lazy non-encyclopaedic style in my first comment! ACEOREVIVED (talk) 18:14, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

"Video"
"The TV series was one of the earliest to use video to create the visual effects used for the series. Roy Hayes Visual Effects did the visuals specific for the series." To use "video"? Does this mean CGI (computer generated imagery)? A type of tape-montage? Analog effects? Something else? Thanks. 76.10.128.192 (talk) 02:15, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I have replaced "video" to "Computer-generated imagery". 76.10.128.192 (talk) 04:50, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

"The series initially had solid ratings but CBS constantly pre-empted the show"
What does the second half of this sentence mean? --Dweller (talk) 17:15, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Pre-empt (from preemptively) (verb) 1. take action in order to prevent something; forestall. 2. acquire or appropriate (something) in advance.
 * CBS scheduled Logan's Run, but then took it off and replaced it or moved it in the schedule. MartinSFSA (talk) 11:00, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Neither of those meanings really fit. What action did they take to prevent what from happening? Is this a piece of USEng that means "moved the channel" or "delayed" or "changed the timing of" or two or more of these? --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 11:03, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not getting your objection. It was scheduled and then not transmitted, hence did not rate. Do you have a better way to put it? MartinSFSA (talk) 23:41, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
 * How about "The series initially had solid ratings but CBS made frequent changes to the scheduling, which disrupted the audience" --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 11:23, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Done. MartinSFSA (talk) 11:34, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
 * :0) --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 12:06, 9 June 2016 (UTC)


 * In either form, the sentence isn't accurate. CBS moved the show after three episodes to another night to fill a gap in the schedule caused by another program's early cancellation.  After that, it wasn't pre-empted any more times than any other program might be.  The complaint just sounds like an old sci-fi TV fan excuse.  "Oh, My Favorite Show would have been a big success, but that mean old network kept pre-empting it."  Meanwhile, everything else that was on television three times in four weeks didn't have any ratings trouble.  173.247.21.65 (talk) 08:04, 29 July 2017 (UTC)-HBS
 * Its not an excuse networks actually did that. "Star Trek: Enterprise" for example was never on when it was scheduled because they kept interrupting it for football. I never knew when to set my VCR. The remake of Dark Shadows was constantly being interrupted as well. 40.131.181.35 (talk) 22:23, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
 * That excuse is exactly what I was talking about five years ago. Sci-fi fans love to complain that their favorite sci-fi show was always pre-empted and that is why it was axed.  But every program from the 1970s through the 2000s, with the exception of top 10 hits, was regularly pre-empted - cop shows, soaps, comedies, everything.  If they made it through the 39-week TV season with 22 or 24 new episodes, that meant it was frequently pre-empted.  Do the math: that's 15 or 17 weeks of either repeats or pre-emptions to get you from the season premiere in September to the finale in May.  Yes, indeed, Enterprise and Dark Shadows were pre-empted.  I'm not disputing that.  But everything else that was on television was also pre-empted as well!  -HBS 173.247.21.65 (talk) 01:32, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Pre-empted on the West coast?
"Only the first eleven episodes of the series were broadcast on the West Coast during its original run."

Is there any proof for this claim? I can't find any. Seems to be accepted lore but is it really true? 173.247.21.65 (talk) 07:55, 29 July 2017 (UTC)--HBS
 * I mean, you can easily imagine a single CBS affiliate in one market - even one as large as Los Angeles - not showing a program. That happened in Atlanta in 1992-93, when the then-CBS station, WAGA, would routinely not transmit network programming like Picket Fences or Bodies of Evidence in favor of repeats of In the Heat of the Night.  But if the entire Pacific Time Zone was viewing some other program instead of Logan's Run, then what did the network show instead?  There'd have to be substantial evidence that either more than a dozen independently-owned affiliates had all decided against screening the program, or that CBS was providing alternate programming for the West Coast, and either scenario is so outre that there would surely be some evidence to back the claim.  173.247.21.65 (talk) 08:12, 29 July 2017 (UTC)--HBS.


 * Not entirely unlikely. Living in the EST zone, the program was preempted three, possibly four, weeks in a row at the end of 1977. I didn't know there were episodes unseen in my area. Pre-emptions means some sort of special program airs instead - TV Guide used to ALWAYS indicate planned preemptions by indicating, at the bottom of the entry for a substitute program, e.g. "[Preempts 'Logan's Run'.]". The special might be another taped program, an extension from an adjacent slot for an unusually-long episode of another series, or a special sports presentation.  Then there are unplanned preemptions, such as the 1963 JFK assassination, interlude of preparations, then the funeral, or the 1973-74 Watergate hearings, or Sadat visiting Israel (which actually was current during Logan's Run's months on television).
 * It is possible that something preempted Logan in the eastern time zone, and other or local programs further west, but Logan's Run wouldn't run in the Pacific time zone until three hours after its scheduled EST slot, by which time that "something" was finished.
 * President Carter used to always have his weekday news conference at 10 am EST, preempting most of The Price Is Right in the Eastern time zone, but the show would have aired normally in Mountain and Pacific, so if you were on the show and wanting to see or be seen by friends and family, better not count on seeing it in the Eastern or Central zones if Carter hadn't done his news conference yet that week! GBC (talk) 22:12, 7 July 2024 (UTC)