Talk:Logitech/Archive 1

Logitech are liars
Why does logitech claim in their commercial that their headsets were used on the moon? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.188.41.247 (talk) 05:02, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * That was Plantronics.-Ridge Racer 01:11, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

List of Logitech Products
Should there be a List of Logitech products? There's a List of Canon products —Preceding unsigned comment added by Steve a (talk • contribs) 30 January 2006 pitt


 * I don't see any reason why not. I suggest you be bold and create one. Pegasus1138 Talk  02:28, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Modula-2
HI !!!!In the early days, Logitech sold a Modula-2 system for the IBM PC. That is how I first became aware of them (perhaps around 1985). How does that fit into their history? Since it predates the web, Google doesn't reveal all ot the history. http://workshopstudio.bea.com/mansour.htm seems to be a rememberance of the original author.
 * I agree, this belongs in == history == Lexein 10:39, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

For some reason I thought logitech first started making mice to go with the Modula-2 so I was surprised to see no mention of Modula-2 on this web page. Is there any truth to that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.69.19.198 (talk) 13:50, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I cannot provide more information about this right now, but, yes, Logitech made a Modula-2 compiler even before they entered the mouse business. This must have been 1989 or earlier. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 09:57, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

I was teaching classes using Logitech Modula-2 in the mid 1980s, so I know this to be correct. I have long-since lost the excellent manual sets that Logitech produced for this product, but BitSavers has a scan of an early Logitech Modula-2 manual that is dated February 29, 1984: http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/logitech/Logitech_Modula-2_86_1.0_Feb84.pdf--Vmanis (talk) 07:03, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

There's a wiki that appears to comprise material from former Logitech staff: logistory.wikispaces.com. A search there turned up a few references to Modula-2 and other software products. --Vmanis (talk) 17:10, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Three regions
The following sentence doesnt make sense for two reasons. "Logitech's sales and marketing activities are organized into three geographic regions: Americas (including North America, South America, and Australia); Europe, Middle East, and Africa; and Asia Pacific."

1. there r six regions listed and it says there are three 2. Australia is not in the Americas region

I'm not an expert in this subject but i thought I'd bring to everyone's attention


 * 1: Actually, there are three regions. Pay closer attention to the semicolons:
 * Region 1 == [Americas, Australia]
 * Region 2 == [Europe, Middle East, Africa]
 * Region 3 == [Asia]


 * 2: Just because they are separate geographical regions does not mean that they cannot be considered the same region for marketing purposes. 69.204.219.131 (talk) 20:56, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

cleanup?
I think this article, particularly, and mainly, the first part, reads like an ad/PR job for Logitech. I'm tagging it for cleanup. Cs92 05:08, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Cleaned it and untagged it. OK? Lexein 10:40, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

List of products
The list of products states that Logitech manufactures 'iPod's. This claim is obviously false as iPods are Apple's flagship product.

i'm pretty sure whoever wrote it meant 'ipod accessories'. a tad badly worded, but valid —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.183.85.18 (talk) 18:16, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Other brands
What are the other brands Logitech owns totally or partially ? I know they own Labtec and outsource to some (mainly in China) manufacturers that can be sometimes found in little shops and supermarkets, lidl, aldi, walmart... (82.243.0.45 (talk) 19:16, 14 February 2008 (UTC))

What bluetooth??
I was surprised by this article when it said that Logitech has bluetooth mice/trackball peripherals, because in my memory they didn't. I just checked the Logitech corporate site and I couldn't find a single bluetooth mice/trackball peripheral, so I'm going to delete it unless someone has information otherwise. Mistsrider (talk) 18:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

http://www.google.com/search?q=logitech%20bluetooth The V470 logitech mouse is bluetooth: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/notebook_products/mice/devices/3287&cl=us,en —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.161.90.126 (talk) 09:45, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Logitech Attack 3 merger
I'm proposing that Logitech Attack 3 be merged into this article, specifically the Products section. This is following the "No Consensus" AfD for that article. Per WP:PRODUCT, "information on products and services should generally be included in the article on the company itself". The caveats to this (namely, notability of the product and large size of the company article) do not apply here. Discuss away! &mdash;/M endaliv /2¢/Δ's/ 15:24, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

4 years late, but I figure I might as well add this anyway...

I searched Logitech Attack 3, and was led to the main article on Logitech. When I scrolled down, I found no information on the joystick I'd been looking for information on.

Please explain how removing a page which possibly had information at one point and replacing it with a redirect is the same as changing a page to a redirect and adding its information to the company's page? 58.7.186.211 (talk) 02:42, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Brand Names Section
"'In Canada, Logitech International uses its own name without conflict with Logitech Electronics, an InterTAN Canada Ltd. supplier of consumer electronics since 1988.'"

This is confusing, since I've shopped in InterTAN's Source stores and seen the 'real' Logitech's stuff on display, but never noticed "LE's" stuff. 66.36.133.8 (talk) 06:17, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

If it's not avaliable, do one of the following:

If it is followed to?

High Security BearBunker Doors?
In the list of Product Families the IP 65.94.79.179 has added on 24. November 2015 00:56 an item High Security BearBunker Doors. I can't find anything with google about this product, neither the two companies mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.103.83.210 (talk) 12:33, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Article reads like press release
It seems a lot of the lines are taking right from Logitech's marketing department. Here are three examples of speech that are to the brim with vague marketing lingo. Maybe this should be simplified or removed.

"develop integrated solutions that will allow for more optimized, effective, engaging and powerful presentations"

"The mouse will be available in August for $60, can track over 500 inches per second and features Logitech's own Delta Zero sensor technology"

"ConferenceCam Connect, a portable all-in-one solution for video conferencing with a design for small and medium-sized rooms"

nakomaru (talk) 09:59, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

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Edit Request - 2017 Product Launches
Please add the following to 4.4 Product Launches 2017:

In June 2017, the new Logitech MX Master 2S and the Logitech MX Anywhere 2S were announced alongside Logitech Flow, a software allowing mice with multi-computer functionality.

In June 2017, Logitech G announced POWERPLAY Wireless Charging System and LIGHTSPEED Technology compatible with the new Logitech G903 and G703 wireless mice.

In June 2017, Logitech announced Circle 2, and indoor and outdoor home security camera with multiple mounting options and wireless capability.

In July 2017, Logitech announced the agreement to acquire ASTRO Gaming.

In September 2017, Jaybird introduced RUN True Wireless Headphones and Freedom 2 with SpeedFit.

In October 2017, Ultimate Ears announced BLAST and MEGABLAST, portable Bluetooth and Wi-Fi speakers with Amazon Alexa hands-free voice control.

Stout.ashlynn (talk) 22:07, 7 January 2018 (UTC)


 * ✅ Thank you for not editing directly. I have inserted your suggestions, however, I cannot including the Jaybird product launch because the source is a press release. Please find an independent source for the Jaybird announcement. I also removed the word "new" so it does not become dated. ~  Rick305  t·c 23:16, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ after further review, I think the press release reference is fine per WP:ABOUTSELF. ~  Rick305  t·c 23:50, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

note
This article is basically a blog page with press-release driven "updates" from the company. This is not an encyclopedia article about a company. Jytdog (talk) 00:07, 9 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Then shouldn't the entire timeline go away? I don't understand why you just deleted 2017. ~  Rick305  t·c 02:53, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Not encyclopedic
This is not encyclopedic; just parroting press releases.


 * Product launches ==

In October 2014, Logitech released the Logitech Wireless Mouse M320 which used the Logitech wireless USB dongle.
 * 2014 ===

In October 2014, Logitech debuted the Keys-to-Go rugged fabric keyboard for the Apple iPad.

In January 2015, Logitech released the ConferenceCam Connect, a portable product for video conferencing with a design for small and medium-sized rooms.
 * 2015 ===

In January 2015, Ultimate Ears released the UE MEGABOOM speaker.

In March 2015, Logitech announced its new flagship mouse—the MX Master, a successor to the Performance MX.

In June 2015, Logitech announced the Logitech G29 and Logitech G920 Driving Force Racing Wheel for PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4, Xbox One and PC.

In July 2015, Logitech introduced the X50 mobile wireless speaker. It allows to connect the phone via Bluetooth as well as auxiliary jack.

In September 2015, Logitech introduced the Logi Circle, a portable home connection camera that connects to your smartphone for home monitoring.

In November 2015, Logitech launched the CREATE line as the first accessories for iPad Pro, leveraging the new Smart Connector, and specially designed with Apple.

In December 2015, Logitech exits its OEM business and announces the separation of Lifesize in December 2015.

In January 2016, Logitech’s gaming division Logitech G released the G502 Proteus Spectrum with RGB customizable lighting.
 * 2016 ===

In April 2016, Logitech acquired audio wearables maker Jaybird for 50 million USD.

In April 2016, Logitech announced the Logi BASE Charging Stand with Smart Connector for iPad Pro.

In May 2016, Logitech launched its first Jaybird product, Jaybird Freedom Wireless Bluetooth® Buds.

In August 2016, Logitech introduced the POP home switch, a wireless button that controls smart home products from a variety of manufacturers.

In September 2016, Logitech acquired the Saitek simulation product line from Madcatz for 13 million USD in cash.

In October 2016, Logitech launched Jaybird X3 wireless earbuds.


 * 2017 ===

In June 2017, the new Logitech MX Master 2S and the Logitech MX Anywhere 2S were announced alongside Logitech Flow, a software allowing mice with multi-computer functionality.

In June 2017, Logitech G announced POWERPLAY Wireless Charging System and LIGHTSPEED Technology compatible with the new Logitech G903 and G703 wireless mice.

In June 2017, Logitech announced Circle 2, and indoor and outdoor home security camera with multiple mounting options and wireless capability.

In July 2017, Logitech announced the agreement to acquire ASTRO Gaming.

In September 2017, Jaybird introduced RUN True Wireless Headphones and Freedom 2 with SpeedFit.

In October 2017, Ultimate Ears announced BLAST and MEGABLAST, portable Bluetooth and Wi-Fi speakers with Amazon Alexa hands-free voice control.

--Jytdog (talk) 03:39, 10 January 2018 (UTC)


 * That's better. Thanks. ~  Rick305  t·c 04:02, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Primary sources, promotional text, and product announcements
The article contained a lot of references to product announcements that I have removed, particulary in the History section. Having just a few product announncements referenced and with no real reporting on the historical impact the product made on the company, I don't think it made sense to have them. Also, there was a reference to one bad year Logitech had and it was the only information about its financial history. It seemed out of place to report a single year about a 30+ year old company.

Here is what I removed:

In August 2009, Logitech introduced the Logitech Unifying receiver, which enabled multiple wireless devices to connect through one USB port.

In May 2010, Logitech, in partnership with Google, introduced the Internet-enabled television; named Google TV.

In May 2011, Logitech entered the tablet market with a line of accessories, including cases and keyboards, speakers and mice for iPad and Android-based tablets.

Logitech's profits were hurt by the proliferation of tablet devices. In 2013 the company operated at a loss, but returned to profitability in 2014.

On 8 July 2015, Logitech announced the biggest brand transformation in its history. The transformation included a new, simplified and modernized logo and the announcement of a greater emphasis on design going forward. Logitech also highlighted that they are looking to move beyond PC peripherals.

In September 2015, Logitech and Prezi announced a plan to work together on co-marketing and product development.

Jytdog, do you think this is enough to remove the primary template in the History section? Perhaps also the advert template at the top? ~  Rick305  t·c 04:48, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Logitech Page Refresh
Hello! Below is an updated Logitech history section.

Information to be added or removed:

Logitech was officially founded in 1981 in Apples, Switzerland as a software development and hardware architecture company by two Stanford graduate students, Daniel Borel and Pierluigi Zappacosta, and a former Olivetti engineer, Giacomo Marini. The founders chose the name Logitech based on the French word for software, “logiciel”. The company was originally focused on software, and wanted to develop a software product that would let users interact with a computer visually. Logitech realized that the computer mouse was a growth opportunity, and their decision to produce one became a turning point for the company. Logitech introduced its first hardware device, the P4 mouse, for users of graphic software in 1982.

Since then, Logitech has expanded its product portfolio far beyond computer mice. In 1988, the company produced its first non-mouse peripheral, a handheld scanner. Over the coming years, Logitech introduced products to their portfolio including computer keyboards, a digital still camera, a headphone/microphone, a joystick gaming peripheral, and a webcam on a flexible arm. The company continued to be an innovator in the computer mouse market and create many industry firsts, including the first infrared cordless mouse, thumb-operated trackball mouse, laser mouse, and more.

Starting in 1981, founders Daniel Borel and Pierluigi Zappacosta shared CEO duties. However, in 1997, Zappacosta left Logitech to become chairman of Digital Persona Inc. and Borel retired to the position of company chairman the following year. Logitech then brought in Guerrino De Luca, a former executive at Apple Computer, to fill the role of CEO in 1998.

De Luca lead the company for over a decade, before Gerald Quindlen took on the role in 2008. Quindlen held the CEO position until 2012, when the company began to experience net losses and profits began to take a downturn due to a changing technology market and distribution issues in Europe. De Luca then returned to the CEO position on an interim basis until the company’s current CEO, Bracken Darrell was selected in 2012. Since Darrell became CEO, Logitech has begun to focus heavily on its gaming category, creativity and productivity division, and video collaboration. Darrell has stated that “nothing is recession proof, but these categories are recession resistant. In a down environment people are going to cut their travel budgets, so video will go up. In gaming, in a down environment people don’t want to go out so much and spend as much money, so they will probably play more games.”

Explanation of issue: Current history page is out of date and doesn't contain history that is particularly relevant to the company.

CiaraAislingLoughnane (talk) 21:29, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Logitech is the parent company for six separate brands: Logitech, Logitech G, Ultimate Ears, Jaybird, Astro Gaming, Blue Microphones, and Streamlabs.

The Logitech brand focuses on various creativity and productivity product offerings, such as mice, keyboards, webcams, video collaboration products, and smart home devices.

Logitech G was created by Logitech after the success of their GSeries gaming products in 2014. The brand creates PC gaming peripherals such as headsets, keyboards, mice, and racing wheels.

Ultimate Ears was acquired in 2008 for $34 million USD and creates portable Bluetooth speakers and professional in-ear monitors.

In 2016, Logitech acquired Jaybird for $50 million USD. The brand creates wireless headphones marketed for running and other outdoor activities.

ASTRO Gaming was acquired by Logitech in 2017 for $85 million USD. ASTRO Gaming focuses on producing console gaming headsets.

Logitech acquired Blue Microphones in 2018 for $117 million. Blue is known for USB condenser microphones.

Most Recently, Logitech acquired Streamlabs, a livestreaming software company, in 2019 for approximately $89 million.

Explanation of issue: Current description of product lines is out of date, and having all of the current product lines from each of Logitech's brands would ultimately clutter the page and make finding useful information very difficult. Having high level information about what brands sit under Logitech give readers a better scope of the company than the product lines.

Information to be added or removed: Remove the "Production" section of the page.

Explanation of issue: The section isn't fully cited and the one source that is cited is out of date. Unless the section is more robust and more citations added, it doesn't serve as being a good source of information and should be removed.

CiaraAislingLoughnane (talk) 22:39, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

CiaraAislingLoughnane (talk) 22:24, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Reply 23-OCT-2019

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 * When large passages of text which contain many different claims are proposed to be modified, individual reasons for those changes being made to each and every specific claim needs to be made.
 * A verbatim description of any text which is to be removed from an article also needs to be provided.
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