Talk:London Stansted Airport

Charters
How about culling that list of charters? It is a list of holiday operators rather than airlines (mainly), and it's very likely most will remain red links. Can't see the use either. -Wangi 13:19, 18 August 2005 (UTC) Worth mentioning previous flights to Middle East and Kuala Lumpur? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.143.144.189 (talk) 15:37, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Future Expansion
I think it's necessary for a section on the proposed second runway and general expansion of the airport. I'd write a section myself but my knowledge of the plans is very limited. --Fozi999 00:13, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Maplin
Is it worth mentioning in the history that Stansted was only chosen for London's third airport after the project to build a large airport (bigger than Heathrow) on reclaimed land at Maplin Sands was cancelled in the 1960s on the grounds of cost?

Piers
I think that it has two piers connected by bridge and one or two by monorail, rather than 1 and 2 as stated in the article... is it possible to check this?

BaseTurnComplete 18:11, 22 December 2005 (UTC)


 * No, one pier is connected by bridge, gates 1 to 32. The other two are connected by monorail, gates 33 to 68 and gates 69 to 99. Sb2k4 9:30, 19 February 2006 (GMT)

I thought there were four piers but in fact it seems more complicated than that... according to the website: There are currently three satellite buildings at Stansted. ● Satellite 1 is used by international passengers and is served by the tracked transit system ● Satellite 2 is used by both domestic and international passengers who walk and use the tracked transit system respectively; and ● Satellite 3 is used by international passengers who walk to and from the terminal. Claret 22:07, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

There are three piers (satellite buildings). I have updated the article to include a table summarising the gates and access methods for each satellite building. Bruce (talk) 20:12, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Sleeping
Is it worth mentioning the several hundred people who sleep on the chairs and floor at Stansted each night? I was astounded to see about 700 people there last Friday, and did a search earlier for "people sleeping at stansted"; turns out it's a regular occurence (some sites list 100 average, 3-400 peak; others (eg http://www.geoffjones.com/stansted.html gives a quote from a worker stating an average of ) 500 nightly. If included it would presumably only fit into a Trivia header, but with a figure of however many hundreds of people per night it seems like something notable enough to include, though I don't know how to state the figure so am not currently Bold enough to write it in myself. It's worth noting that the two nearby hotels are a Hilton and a Radisson, both expensive locations, and this is probably a factor in why so many people prefer to bring a sleeping bag... --User:Firien § 11:35, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Merge
For: The Stansted expansion article is very short and could occupy a section of the main article as it is very closely related. Flymeoutofhere 08:24, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Annoying Police
Could someone point out the sheer incompetence of Essex Police, who regulary shut down the drop off and pick up point (as shown in the "The lawn in front of Stansted Airport..." photo)because of "terror alerts." They funnel everyone down into the short stay car park and the coach station where there is one huge traffic jam and thus creates an even BIGGER target for any would terrorist bomber!

I work with the police airport, and if you had any idea about what goes on with airport security, then you wouldn't be saying that. Luke0406 23:27, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

News
Is it worth adding a link to a daily updated Stansted news page - http://www.uk-airport-news.info/stansted-airport-news.htm

the above looks like spam to me and the site is part of a network of such sites. Thundernlightning 20:20, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi-Jacks
Special branch in the airport confirm that stansted is used to re-direct all hi-jacked, and suspected hi-jacked planes heading for london airports, and most other uk airports. does anyone thinks this is worth adding? Luke0406 23:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Airlines & Destinations: Air Berlin
Air Berlin will discontinue to offer flights from STN to Manchester, Glasgow and Belfast-Harbour BHD after 31-OCT-2007. As rumoured the economics of these flights were too bad. Archie02 21:26, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

David O'Leary
I wasn't able to find any supporting information for the claim that all survived the 1998 incident "due to the expertise of the flight crew and the distinct bravery of the team's assistant manager, David O'Leary." Neither the cited newspaper article nor the article for David O'Leary makes any mention of his "distinct bravery" or the expertise of the flight crew. For now I've removed the claim. SkipSmith (talk) 07:39, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Environment
"Since then passenger numbers have been in decline, due partly to rising fares and the lower value of Sterling, and perhaps also influenced by growing awareness of the detrimental impact that aviation has on climate change." This is rather humorous speculation but speculation nonetheless.-newkai t-c 11:02, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Stop Stanstead Expansion --> London City Airport
I note there is a section here called "Opposition". I am trying to set one up for London City Airport. However, I keep getting blocked. Only 1-2 lines are necessary. Yet even mention is not allowed?. Clearly there Wiki editors are not showing consistency?.

Can someone mediate —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.147.188.151 (talk) 23:33, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Viewing areas
IP User 86.8.223.117 has added a section about viewing areas which I removed, he/she has re-added it without explanation. Please note that this is an encyclopedia not a travel or plane spotters guide, viewing areas are not notable. Any comments? MilborneOne (talk) 15:41, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Aircraft viewing areas aren't encyclopedic; agree completely. NcSchu ( Talk ) 17:49, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I would agree that it is not encyclopaedic content, however, I believe that lots of people come to wikipedia for information, and this could be valuable information for some people. Thomas888b (talk) 18:35, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Air Sylhet
I've seen very little noise about them. Are they actually flying ? Pmbma (talk) 14:54, 19 December 2008 (UTC)Pmbma

re-ordering of content
I have reordered and re-organsised the content today. I have promoted to the start of the article all the information needed by people using the airport to make trips including information about the flights on offer, the facilities and also proposed changes to the facilities (including a 2nd runway). The reasonably detailed history section is now later in the article next to the incidents section. I have moved various paragraphs around to more appropriate sections and roll the Plane Stupid protest into history. I have tried not to remove any content in the process. PeterEastern (talk) 18:50, 15 October 2009 (UTC)


 * The article is now different to the layout at WikiProject Airports/page content! Just a note the article is not to "provide information needed by people using the airport to make trips" as this is an encylopedia not a travel guide, so you dont really need to move anything about. MilborneOne (talk) 19:35, 15 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Just to help with a large history section I have moved some of the Second World War history to RAF Stansted Mountfitchet. MilborneOne (talk) 20:34, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

London ?
I notice that a London portal has just been added to the article and it is part of the London project. Just curious as to why as the airport is not actually in London? MilborneOne (talk) 20:52, 15 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Presumably because it serves London... AnonMoos (talk) 19:37, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Well, if I wanted to fly to, or fly from, London, I'd pick an airport in London or, at least, close to London. Stanstead is in Essex, miles away from London. Last time I flew to Stanstead, from Reus, "Welcome to London" was announced whilst we taxied to the terminal. How pathetic can it get? The same thing applies at Reus. Barcelona (Reus) they call it. Although Barcelona is a 70 miles drive from Reus and only a looney would fly to Reus to get to Barcelona, seeing as Barcelona has it's own airport. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.2.129.132 (talk) 00:48, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

early 1980s protests
Should be something on the early 1980's protests against the original approval or building of the airport... AnonMoos (talk) 19:37, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Irrelevant photography
There's something to be said for the irrelevancy of the MaxJet, though I wouldn't be so critical myself. But if it really had to go, what made it so much worse than the Ryanair or Air Asia X planes? Jan olieslagers (talk) 17:24, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Incidents
In the section incidents, there is a paragraph that says this:

On 6 February 2000, an Ariana Afghan Airlines Boeing 727 with 156 people on board was hijacked and flown to Stansted Airport. After a four-day stand-off the hostages on board were safely freed and the incident ended peacefully. It later emerged that the motive behind the hijack was to gain asylum in the UK, sparking debate about immigration into the country. A large number of passengers on board the plane also applied for asylum.[15] In July 2004, it was reported that a number of hijackers had won their bid for asylum in the UK, their convictions for hijacking having been quashed for misdirection of the jury in 2003.[16]

Noticed I highlighted the word Quashed. Is this even a real word? Thomas888b (talk) 18:37, 24 January 2011 (UTC)


 * From dictionary.com, Quash: 1. to put down or suppress completely; quell; subdue: to quash a rebellion. 2. to make void, annul, or set aside (a law, indictment, decision, etc.).


 * So yes it is a word. Alternatively, "overruled", "annulled", "overthrown" or "declared null and void" could be used and may sound better / be more readily understood? SempreVolando (talk) 19:35, 24 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Quashed is the correct legal term where a conviction is overturned. Mjroots (talk) 19:48, 24 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Talking of incidents, the Etihad incident today is under discussion at WT:AV. Mjroots (talk) 19:49, 24 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Cool, Just wanted to check :-) Thomas888b (talk) 20:56, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

State visits
I note that in the information on the Harrods terminal it states that it is used on some State Visits. I believe this is incorrect and do not think it has ever been used for this purpose.

PM — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.193.56.194 (talk) 21:49, 20 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Didnt the US President arrive at Stansted on his state visit in 2011. MilborneOne (talk) 18:12, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Satellite 4?
We say "There are no gates in the main Terminal building; instead, there are three separate oblong Satellite buildings in which the gates are located, with a fourth satellite building under construction" with a reference as a dead link. It looks like satellite 4 isn't under construction but is planned. I cannot see the original reference to know if it was misread. http://mag-umbraco-media-live.s3.amazonaws.com/1029/land-use-sdp.pdf talks about "the site of future satellite 4" (p33) It looks like it is connected to the development of echo apron and would be at the north west of the other three. 87.83.31.234 (talk) 23:58, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

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Ercan flights
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Airports/page_content States that non-stop and direct flights should only be listed the definition of a direct flight is shown here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_flight "A direct flight in the aviation industry is any flight between two points by an airline with no change in flight numbers, which may include a stop at an intermediate point" the routes to Ercan do not change flight number so therefore they are direct flights and should be included in the table. CBG17 (talk) 21:09, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Additionally, WP:AIRPORTS requires that not only the flight number remains common but that the same aircraft continues to the subsequent (direct) destination. Provided this is the case with the route you mention, then yes it should be included in the table. SempreVolando (talk) 20:17, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

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CAA Flying Unit? Where is it mentioned?
I would suggest there seems to have been a rather big omission from the history of this airport: the residency of the (in its final form) CAA Flying Unit (CAFU or CAAFU). During the lean years, this entity was often responsible for many of the daily movements whether they be due to candidates flying in or using one of the CAAFU Doves to take their Instrument Rating tests or the operations of the HS748s ('XI' and 'XJ'), the first 125 ('DX) or the later 125 (cannot remember - something like 'BBC - ex Barclays bank with gold taps) for Flight Inspection. As one who worked there for five years, the CAA Flying Unit was located in the 'temporary' buildings in the SW corner of the airport with its own pan and hangar (with support from Aviation Traders). This article really should include something about the Unit as it was definitely part and parcel of the History of the Airport. (There is also seems to be no mention of the 'Stop Stansted Airport' movement of the early 80s. I have also to check if Mr Ford's private BAC 1-11 airforce is mentioned...) Longfinal (talk) 10:33, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

the only arrivals.terminal?
The article claims that STN will be the only UK airport with a dedicated arrivals terminal, but Heathrow T3 used to be two separate buildings as well. Haven't been there for ages though.--92.200.151.66 (talk) 13:04, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

London_Stansted_Airport#Cargo
Hi, I can't figure out what i've done wrong at London_Stansted_Airport as the last entry is mishmashed, I know it's something so stupidly simple as it always is with these :), If anyone could fix this that would be amazing, Many thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 17:30, 21 May 2023 (UTC)