Talk:Londonderry, North Yorkshire

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A note on the origins of the name would be worth it - if only for comparison with the city by the Foyle. --jrleighton 02:25, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Londonderry is a term used before partition, and (is favoured by Unionists) so stop trying to be disruptive. --Domer48 (talk) 19:13, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Londonderry is not in dispute. You have no reason to revert a valid phrase.  It is more useful to show where Londonderry is NOW.Traditional unionist (talk) 19:26, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

In your opinion. It's more useful to say were it got it's name then. --Domer48 (talk) 19:28, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Why?Traditional unionist (talk) 19:29, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
 * instead of trying to use the rules to force your own version, why not answer the question, why?Traditional unionist (talk) 19:53, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

This is a very lame excuse for a edit war, both sides are right, can we not have a compromise such as
 * It is named after the Londonderry family, who take their name from County Londonderry in Ireland in what later became part of Northern Ireland.

that way both points are stated factually.--Padraig (talk) 01:47, 30 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I have implemented the change above, seeing as nobody commented either way on the proposed change.--Padraig (talk) 05:41, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

There's no need for any clarification, see Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_%28Ireland-related_articles%29/Archive_1 for where it's been thrashed out before. Putting a present day location isn't necessary for this or practically every other article, or will John Mitchel soon read "Born in Camnish, near Dungiven, County Londonderry, Ireland which later became part of Northern Ireland". This is a lame edit war started by someone who should have a read of WP:STALK. One Night In Hackney 303  09:44, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I hadn't seen that before.--Padraig (talk) 12:30, 31 December 2007 (UTC)


 * You should not have reverted the edit ONiH while this discussion is open, you are edit warring. This article has practically zero connection to Ireland, making a clarification necessary.  Padraig's suggestion is sensible.Traditional unionist (talk) 09:57, 31 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Erm, you started the edit war when you started stalking me. Let's face it, you'd never edited this article before yet I had.... One Night In Hackney  303  09:59, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Unsubstantiated conjecture which is nevertheless irrelevant unless you want to prove tendentiousness and personal attacks. Also, where on IMOS is your stance backed up?  I don't see any reference to pre 1921 Ireland.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Traditional unionist (talk • contribs) 10:18, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Using IP's to avoide blocks is not good form. --Domer48 (talk) 11:05, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Neither are assumptions of bad faith. This is the only article that I and this IP have both edited.  You will withdraw that allegation.Traditional unionist (talk) 11:07, 31 December 2007 (UTC)


 * There's a clear reference to pre-1921 Ireland, given the family were called Londonderry before 1921. Over and out... One Night In Hackney  303  10:04, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Please stop edit warring.Traditional unionist (talk) 11:18, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Derry
Shouldn't this be Derry? I've always known it as Derry and Wikipedia really shouldn't make me feel bad so...let's get this renamed, ok? --Counter-revolutionary (talk) 23:23, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It is known as Londonderry not Derry see the maps. Keith D (talk) 00:19, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * So what? Wikipedia isn't a map. --Counter-revolutionary (talk) 00:22, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Londonderry is its official name - it is not known by the name Derry, apart from possibly locals. Keith D (talk) 00:46, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Name
The article says that the village was named after the Londonderry family, although the baptism register for Burneston parish apparently says that it existed in 1782 and the 1st Marquess probably wouldn't have been known as Londonderry before 1789. It may have been named after the place in Ireland, by a member of the family; or it could have been named after another Earl of Londonderry, although they seem to be unrelated. The description of the family as "colliery owners" is probably not relevant here, as the village is not in a coal mining area - they owned land in County Durham from the 19th century. Peter&#160;E.&#160;James (talk) 23:35, 15 June 2012 (UTC)