Talk:Lone Survivor

Death of Chad Oulson
Should the news about the death of Chad Oulson be included in this article? He was texting while sitting in the theater when a disgruntled man shot him.

NYT article here: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/22/us/a-movie-date-a-text-message-and-a-fatal-shot.html?_r=0 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 145.94.175.128 (talk) 18:29, 22 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I was thinking the same thing. The article The Dark Knight Rises mentions the related shooting, so I believe something about the Chad Oulson shooting should be included here too. There's an interesting comparison between the former police officer of 20 years who was defending himself in Florida and these brave soldiers who were defending America abroad. The latter are held up as heroes, but when the former followed their example he is made into a pariah.


 * "If violence is wrong in America, violence is wrong abroad. If it is wrong to be violent defending black women and black children and black babies and black men, then it is wrong for America to draft us, and make us violent abroad in defense of her. And if it is right for America to draft us, and teach us how to be violent in defense of her, then it is right for you and me to do whatever is necessary to defend our own people right here in this country."


 * --96.48.13.234 (talk) 03:45, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

FYI
US Navy SEALs are longer required to maintain their original ratings, ie: Hospitalman (HM) or Gummer's mate (GM) (if they went to an 'A' achool before joining NSW). They are now identified by their Special Warfare Operator (SO) rating. See: United_States_Navy_SEALs - the WOLF  child  04:11, 7 December 2013 (UTC)


 * That is true however these men died in 2005 before SO was established so wouldn't it be more accurate to list their ratings at the time of the action? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.160.161.75 (talk) 19:25, 9 December 2013 (UTC)


 * That is a good point, as (SO) replacing other ratings didn't became standard until 2006. However, the navy is applying this retro-actively, to everyone, so it is appropriate to do so here as well. - the WOLF  child  19:47, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

It is Gunner's_mate not "Gummer's Mate". SunSw0rd (talk) 19:30, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

BTW
Ref #5 is a dead link. - the WOLF  child  21:20, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Critical Response
This section is too long. It needs to be cut back, a paragraph for positive reviews and one for negative reviews is sufficient. You don't need to list every single positive/negative review. 98.209.42.117 (talk) 19:34, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * No, putting all the reveiws is neccesassry74.104.208.31 (talk) 17:29, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Where are the reviews calling it outright what it is, an American propaganda movie with purpose of recruitment. --165.165.69.80 (talk) 23:55, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

References to use
Thanks, Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 18:22, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Lone Survivor's Takeaway: Every War Movie Is a Pro-War Movie by The Atlantic

Plot?
It's baffling to me that this article has an abundance (too much?) detail about production aspects of this film and almost no information about the plot. The move has been out for 7 days and clearly is a top movie-going choice, some editors must have seen the film and can sum it up in a paragraph or two. It's just odd that this is 10X the level of detail on the making of this movie and little on the finished project. Liz Read! Talk! 05:34, 17 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Agreed. As I have in the past, I've taken much of my time in expanding the article, mostly focusing on the production aspects. For anyone who is interested in making a plot synopsis for the article, maybe this site may help: http://www.themoviespoiler.com/Spoilers/LoneSurvivor.html SuperSonic2000 (talk) 05:52, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Acclaim
The film didn't receive critical acclaim. 74 on Rotten Tomatoes and a mixed 60 on Metacritic is quite lukewarm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.182.26.109 (talk) 20:07, 29 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Makes sense. "Critical acclaim" is something for Gravity or 12 Years a Slave. I've revised the passage accordingly. Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 20:17, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Pashtunwali
I think that from this article one can get the wrong impression that Pashtuns are against Talibans. This is not true, Talibans are Pashtuns and abide by the Pashtunwali! (see Wikipedia article on Taliban: "The majority of the Taliban are made up of Afghan Pashtun tribesmen.[13][14] The Taliban's leaders were influenced by Deobandi fundamentalism,[15] and many also strictly follow the social and cultural norm called Pashtunwali.[16]" ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:908:DE12:1780:C448:A931:402B:DB6 (talk) 13:37, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Criticism: Casting
Generally good story. My criticism is in the casting. The US military and elite forces are not just a bunch of green & blue eyed white guys. The enemy is not all just a bunch of brown guys. The credits show that the all white guy navy seals is not how it really was. They should have paid more attention to keeping to reality instead putting this undertone on it in casting.

Gfutia (talk) 05:06, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 02 October 2016

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: moved.  QEDK ( T  &#9749;  C ) 14:53, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

– I get a lot of the views for the film. I get less views for the book. 31.53.108.231 (talk) 14:15, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Lone Survivor (film) → Lone Survivor
 * Lone Survivor → Lone Survivor (disambiguation)


 * Support per nom. The film gets significantly more page views than any other use. |Lone_Survivor_(film)|Lone_Survivor_(video_game)|Lone_Survivor_Foundation|Lone_Survivor_(book) PC78 (talk) 12:59, 3 October 2016 (UTC)


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GA Review
This article needs to be reviewed for GA status. There are sections that are not referenced and B1 must = no. --Lineagegeek (talk) 23:09, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

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Chinooks
The article states that the US Army provided MH-47 Chinooks to the production, however the Chinooks in the actual film are CH-47F Chinooks. F model Chinooks were never used by the 160th SOAR. MH-47s are easily distinguishable by a long refueling boom in the front and painted a darkish black green. CH-47Fs, as shown in the film, do not have this boom and are painted the correct lighter green as fielded by the non-SpecOps US Army aviation units. This is the equivalent of using NASCAR vehicles to portray race cars in a Formula One movie. 24.207.164.46 (talk) 05:13, 5 April 2022 (UTC)