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NPOV Dispute
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Ethanol has many scientifically-established benefits at low intake levels, including a reduction of postprandial hyperglycemia, reduced insulin resistance, increases in HDL-C, and even a normalization of primary insomnia in some clinical insomniacs (screws up normal people, normalizes insomniacs). Even the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism&mdash;an NIH institution primarily focused on the negative consequences of alcohol abuse&mdash;lists health benefits of alcohol.

I noticed Ethanol has an Adverse Effects section, rather than a simple Health Effects section; and it suggests Ethanol consumption will raise triglycerides&mdash;an unqualified assertion which fails to indicate that ethanol consumption at 10-30mL/day has been shown to raise HDL-C in a dose-dependent nature without raising LDL, which would be considered a potential health benefit. This is bluntly listed as an Adverse Effect, so goes further than simply leaving out select information.

Wikipedia has a robust collection of well-structured, detailed articles about ethanol and its effects; and they all strongly-emphasize the negative consequences of alcohol consumption, while avoiding any discussion of health benefits. It's like MADD maintains the Wikipedia page. This is disgraceful, it distorts the mission of Wikipedia, and it blatantly misinforms the public who have come to expect Wikipedia to be more accurate than Britannica on well-written articles. --John Moser (talk) 00:40, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Adverse Effects is language out of WP:PHARMMOS. Health effects may be appropriate. I have no preference. Most research done on recreational alcohol consumption is focused on negative effects. This article is likely weighted toward the negative effects because the literature is. This article is nowhere near the top of anyone's priority list. Feel free to take a stab at improving it. Keep in mind that biomedical content requires WP:MEDRS. Sizeofint (talk) 05:15, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

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Problems with taking alcohol consumption rates in account
Authors should not equate low, moderate and high alcohol consumption because according to researches they have different health effects.

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Citation for "Maximum Quantity Recommended"
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The section "Maximum Quantity Recommended" needs a citation. The UK government offers their recommendation here.

I'm sure other government agency have their own recommendations as well.

--BetaEdits (talk) 19:10, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Removing Primary Source Citations
We do not use primary sources when there are high-quality secondary sources available, particularly when the secondary sources contradict the primary sources, as is the case in this article.Sbelknap (talk) 20:24, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

erroneous statements in lede
The lede asserts that moderate ethanol consumption conveys health benefits and cites primary sources and low-quality secondary sources. This assertion of health benefits contradicts high-quality secondary sources mentioned in the main body of the article. The lede needs revision to reflect the best available information from secondary sources. Sbelknap (talk) 20:25, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

I have made some changes to the lede that reflect the most recent meta-analysis results, as described in the body of the article.Sbelknap (talk) 02:19, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 * good job.-- Literaturegeek |  T@1k?  12:27, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Primary source citations abound
A cursory look at referencing finds that many of the references are primary sources. In a few instances, references had nothing to do with the text being 'supported'. Given the controversy of benefit:harm theories, this article could use a rigorous review of the cited literature. David notMD (talk) 14:12, 30 March 2019 (UTC)