Talk:Longmire (TV series)

4th season
The article text does not describe or include information on the 4th season except on the very specific small section that refers it. The rest reads like the series ended on the 3rd season. There is no mention on the why or how netflix (I think) got on board with the project and released the 4th series. 81.84.185.179 (talk) 21:38, 26 September 2015 (UTC)


 * A Google search and reference check does not turn up much on the details regarding Netflix's decision. The Entertainment Weekly source (#6) states only that it took Time Warner about ten minutes to track down a representative from Netflix. Video streams, like Netflix and Amazon, have become the go-to broadcasters for "fan-favorite" shows that are canceled by their original networks. That's more of an understood thing these days, needing no reason.
 * As for information on the fourth season itself, which is mentioned several times on the main page, there is also section detailing its plot, which, I presume you are referring to as the "small section". I'm not one to update character sections, if that is what you are asking for. The series' stars think it can also go two more seasons, but they have no control over that. Time Warner/Netflix has the keys to that car. That also cannot be added, or shouldn't. —  Wylie pedia  23:36, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

pronounciation
The local pronounciation is three syllables is it not? http://montanapioneer.com/how-do-you-say-absaroka/ CapnZapp (talk) 10:58, 30 December 2016 (UTC)


 * There's also an episode where the pronounciation issue factors into solving the crime. Walt tells his deputies that the county name is pronounced "AB-suh-ro-kah", but the name of a nearby mountain with the same spelling is pronounced ab-SOR-ka. (Season 5, episode 7, "From This Day Forward".  As best I can recall and reconstruct the dialogue, it goes something like this:


 * Read that.
 * To the Absarokas past hill and hollow.
 * That's wrong.
 * That doesn't scan.
 * Every other line in the poem has 10 syllables. That's got 11.
 * That's just because Anson Hamilton is a hack poet.
 * No, that's not it. You're pronouncing one of the words wrong.  This county, we call it "Absaroka".  Northwest of here is a whole mountain range spelled the same, pronounced differently "Absorka".


 * Billmckern (talk) 12:31, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

logo image
Our main image is currently File:Longmire intertitle.png. This does not appear to be used either by Netflix now or A&E previously. WOuld the editor adding it explain his or her rationale? Or could we find a better logo, preferably one we could caption as "1st season logo" (the original A&E logo) or "5th season logo" (The current Nextflix logo for the series). CapnZapp (talk) 11:50, 7 January 2017 (UTC)


 * That image is not a logo but an intertitle from an early episode, which is usually standard for most TV article infoboxes. Its rationale is informative and complete, and the image is fine as is. —  Wylie pedia  14:37, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * To CAWylie: Please do not do that. You're calling its rationale informative and complete, trying to make me look stupid for asking questions about informative and complete items. You say it's fine as is as if that was fact rather than your opinion. Yet it told me none of these things, and it meant an editor (me) had to ask a question. If it had actually been informative and complete, none of these things would not have had to happen, right? So cut out the patronizing tone meant to shut down discussion. Thank you.
 * To everyone else: Now, the linked help page says "image will be the series' title card, although this is not mandated". So what is it? What is an "intertitle"? Is it a title card? How about making this clear for viewers that don't recognize the style. Might I suggest "1st season title card" as caption? Can we then have a current 5th edition title card as a comparison? CapnZapp (talk) 18:59, 7 January 2017 (UTC)


 * There is a different poster for each season https://www.google.ca/search?q=longmire+poster+all+seasons&espv=2&biw=1163&bih=539&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjNvYes3bDRAhWW2YMKHf9aA1gQ7AkILA and one of these would be ideal. But I don't know how to determine whether we could use one of those photos. Peter K Burian (talk) 19:07, 7 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Posters are usually used before a show starts for promotional purposes or for seasonal pages, until something better comes along: title cards from episodes or DVD covers from each season. Again, that's not "mandated", but the smaller and cleaner the better. Title cards, in my opinion, are simply easier, because you can simply say where it came from and the network, rather than search for an original logo somewhere. Some network websites have the logo by itself, allowing a capture, but not Netflix and Longmire. —  Wylie pedia  21:37, 7 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Added caption to the image. Again, it changes with almost every episode, but the font style stays the same. —  Wylie pedia  07:25, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

This article really needed work
Thanks, User:CAWylie. This TV series is so popular, the article deserved some work to improve it. Like many articles about movie or TV series, this one was written long ago, perhaps after Season 1 or 2. As subsequent seasons were aired, the updates were not very well done.

You changed some of my edits, but that's fine. It was worth a second opinion.

The plot of each season is still convoluted in my view. Problem is, I don't recall what happened through every specific season. Peter K Burian (talk) 21:09, 7 January 2017 (UTC)


 * You're welcome, Peter. One problem with the show was its going back and forth from character stories to a police procedural, usually every week. Those types of shows are difficult to condense into a few short paragraphs on a main page and stay with proper page length. A more popular and higher-rated series would most likely be given seasonal episode articles, then the main overview could be trimmed, but then again... American Horror Story. Also, the network change in mid-stride didn't help matters. As for editing others' work, that's the lifeblood of Wikipedia. —  Wylie  pedia  21:48, 7 January 2017 (UTC)


 * There is another article List of Longmire episodes but it does not provide a summary of the plot per season. Hmmm... I wonder: Do we need the plot summary by Season in the main Longmire article? Readers can check the other article for per episode plot. Peter K Burian (talk) 21:56, 7 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Episode lists are designed to be exactly that, lists with no extraneous information. That's why there's a hatnote link here to it, should people want more detail. As I said, seasonal articles can be done but they will get higher scrutiny (for awards, reviews, production notes, etc.). Also, the show is on its last legs: a Season 6 article needs to matter as much as Season 1. Better to capsule it here and save further navigation. —  Wylie  pedia  22:10, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Henry's first contraction.
Pointing to a review of Season 4, the article says that "Henry does not speak in contractions". If there is one thing that his character is notable for, it is precisely that. It sets the character completely apart from the others and I've read elsewhere that Lou Diamond Phillips follows the original it follows the character portrayed in the original novels. I don't get the impression that it is a gimmick or an attempt to show some kind of "White man's stereotypical Indian speech", although others think it does.

However, in the final episode of the final (6th) season, he breaks with tradition and says "isn't". I don't know if that was an accident, but I suspect it was not. Although I have the DVD of the show and could give chapter and verse, I think it would constitute original research so will mention it here in case a future editor has a source for it. Twistlethrop (talk) 14:52, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Move TV series details from the Novel article to the TV series article.
As far as I can tell, there are three articles connected with Longmire. The two main articles - one each for the novel and the TV series - and the list of TV episodes. Some of the information inevitably appears in more than one article, but the novel article includes a substantial section devoted to the TV series. I think there is a good case for two major changes:
 * Remove the bulk of the TV series section from the novel article to the TV series article.
 * Subsequently rename the novel article to identify it as exactly that.

I've copied this to the talk page of the two main articles for comments and in case somebody else wants to do some work on them before me.Twistlethrop (talk) 15:49, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

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