Talk:Lords of Chaos (criminal group)

Section on Relationship to Columbine Massacre
I was wondering about adding a section on the relationship to the Columbine Massacre. Any suggestions? Should we or shouldn't we? Jmm6f488 05:11, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Aside from them being socially isolated teenagers with a destructive bent, is there any relationship at all?--203.70.89.73 18:30, 18 July 2007 (UTC)


 * not that I'm aware. Vulpine Lady 71.49.108.207 (talk) 21:08, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

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Popular Media
Criminal Minds season 3 episode "3rd Life" mentioned LoC as part of the profile presentation.

Vulpine Lady (not logged in) 71.49.108.207 (talk) 21:08, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

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Requested move 9 January 2018

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: Done (non-admin closure)  samee  talk 18:09, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

(group) is generally avoided on en.Wikipedia since it can mean almost anything, creating problems with 3 of the 5 WP:CRITERIA i.e. 1. Recognizability, 2. Naturalness, 5. Consistency. Hence examples like Heaven's Gate (religious group), Al-Shabaab (militant group) which follow Category. In these three cases alternative disambiguators are just suggestions, there may be better options, but these are all terms used by print sources, e.g. (1) Congressional Record "gang of white teenagers .. Lords of Chaos", (2) Lehi "paramilitary group", (3) Motown encyclopedia "pop group". in each case a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT is sufficient, no additonal redirecting or fixing is required. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:22, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Lords of Chaos (group) → Lords of Chaos (gang)
 * Lehi (group) → Lehi (paramilitary group)
 * Steps (group) → Steps (pop group)
 * Support alternative name for first move - Lords of Chaos (criminal group) would make more sense, as the word "gang" is not mentioned at all in the first article. Support the other renames.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 11:16, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Lehi (Palestine) was not a paramilitary group so that name is not good. It was an underground terrorist group (and it used to call itself a terrorist group too). But since it is problematic to use "terrorist group" in titles, Lehi (militant group) would be acceptable. Zerotalk 11:32, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * As nom agree with that fine-tuning Lords of Chaos (criminal group) and Lehi (militant group) would in each case also be acceptable, slightly better in fact. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:55, 9 January 2018 (UTC)


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