Talk:Lorentz National Park

DEAD LINK
The link for "Lorentz National Park Conservation Project" (http://lorentzpark.org) is dead, and hasn't worked since I've been checking it, once a month or so, for the last six months. Does anyone know if this site is still operational? Thanks. Arjuna 20:36, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Is there any permanent human population?
I would like to know if theres human population in this park not counting temporary people like researchers or exsplorers but year round permanent population. if so how many people live here? 99.164.52.125 (talk) 23:10, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Apparently quite significant. Added some info to the article. --Elekhh (talk) 00:44, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

History of the Park
Quite interesting:

Apparently this place was established as "Lorentz nature monument in 1923 to protect indigenous tribes people from sudden contact with western civilisations." See: Histories of Protected Areas: Internationalisation of Conservationist Values and their Adoption in the Netherlands Indies (Indonesia) PAUL JEPSON* AND ROBERT J. WHITTAKER Environment and History 8 (2002): 129–72

But then there's this slightly conflicting info on the park, which does not mention its history as a reserve for indigenous peoples:

1919 The first protection status (the Lorentz Nature Monument) was given by the Dutch Colonial Government; 1956 The protected status was abolished due to conflicts with Indigenous people over unresolved land ownership; 1970s Freeport Indonesia begins operations on Indigenous land; 1978 Established as a Strict Nature Reserve by the Indonesian Government; 1990 The Directorate General of Forest Protection and Natural Resource Management formally approached the WWF Indonesia Program to request assistance in conducting research and designing a management plan. In co-operation with PHPA, WWF prepared a framework park management system that takes into account the traditional land tenure and resource use systems of the tribal communities living within the park; 1990 (Onwards) WWF has gathered basic social and human ecological information on the Indigenous groups in the park as a first step in the process of developing the management plan; 1996 A group of scientists, including WWF and PHPA staff were abducted in the north eastern part of the reserve and due to the political unrest in the Lorentz area, surveys were restricted to the buffer zone and the Asmat area of the park. Despite the hostage crisis, WWF and PHPA in cooperation with the Government have started a participatory resource mapping program to rationalize land use planning in the buffer zone and involve local people in boundary delineation, park zonation, and buffer zone development, particularly since the status changed from Strict Nature Reserve to National Park in 1997. 1997 Declared National Park by the Ministry of Forestry (including the Eastern extension).

Source: Gabriel, J. A. (2007) Cooperative Conservation: Beyond the Rhetoric. A report highlighting International Best Practice recommendations for World Heritage Protected Areas: Identifying ‘best practice’ models and practical solutions that could be applied in the Wet Tropics. Report to the Marine and Tropical Sciences Research Facility. Reef and Rainforest Research Centre, Cairns (144pp.).

Somebody else, please feel free to write this up. I'm not much for that sort of thing. 108.35.251.135 (talk) 02:17, 9 November 2013 (UTC) R.E.D.

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Error in the Fauna Section
There is an error in the second paragraph of the fauna section. It states "The mammal species include the Long-beaked echidna, Short-beaked Echidna, and four species of cuscus as well as wallabies, wildcats and tree-kangaroos.[3]" The error is in where it states "wildcats" however if you follow the reference to the original link the article referenced states "forest-cats". I was at first confused by this difference because "forest-cats" doesn't refer to wildcats (and after a small amount of research I believe there are no wildcats in New Guinea apart from in some urban areas) but instead, I believe, refers to quolls. This would make sense anyway because quolls are found in the area. Jubblubs (talk) 20:49, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

I have now edited the article to say "The mammal species include the Long-beaked echidna, Short-beaked Echidna, and four species of cuscus as well as wallabies, quolls and tree-kangaroos.[3]" (changing the word "wildcats" that was writted previously to "quolls") Jubblubs (talk) 20:53, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Indeed there seems to be some confusion on the website of the Ministry of Forestry, where the description in Indonesian is "kucing hutan" that was probably translated word-by-word to "forest cat" and is used for or range of species including Flat-headed cat, but none of these have their range extend to New Guinea. Possibly a better reference is the WHS description that doesn't indicate any cat, but the New Guinean quoll (aka. New Guinea native cat). -- ELEKHHT 00:27, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

There are much more errors. The numbers of aves species are pure fantasy numbers. 500 species of parrots in a family only containing 21 species. Just as an example! This outdated site from 2010 should be treated as curiosity, not as a source. The correct numbers have to be researched and corrected. Horst Emscher (talk) 08:21, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

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