Talk:Lorne Michaels/Archives/2015

Inconsistent marriage dates
Conflicting marriage dates are listed in the "Early Life" section, "Personal life" section, and Spouse listing on the sidebar. For first marriage: late 1960's vs 1973 vs 1967. For second marriage: 1981 vs 1984. 72.204.56.212 (talk) 06:34, 31 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I also noticed this, in the "Early Life" section it says "During the late 1960s, Michaels married Rosie Shuster...", in the "Personal Life" section it says "...married three times, first to SNL writer Rosie Shuster (1967; div. 1980)". Yet the sidebar says "Spouse: Rosie Shuster (1973–1980; divorced)" There is a big difference between 7 and 13 years


 * Once again, in the "Personal Life" section it says "...then to model Susan Forristal (1984; div. 1987)" Yet the sidebar says "Susan Forristal (1981–1987; divorced)" 3 or 6 years, which is it? (Oh boy, I get picky when I'm on opiates.) --Rpm2004 (talk) 21:23, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Untitled
does michaels live in north carolina???? 97.75.132.200 (talk) 16:19, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

"the primary satirical voice of the country"? I won't edit that out, but that's COMPLETE b*******. He deserves a lot of credit producing some great shows, but c'mon, he doesn't write much material, much less material that's consistently good and/or funny, still comes off as an amateur actor when he does appear in sketches...sure, he's recruited plenty of good talent, but I'd still hesitate to call him the John Hammond of comedy; other scouts and referrals from other professionals play an equally important role.

Even if you could argue Conan and SNL were the two best comedic shows on TV (and I wouldn't), saying those two shows make him the 'primary satirical voice of the country' is like saying the bank financing Charlie Trotter's in Chicago is the best chef in the country.


 * It is a quote. Clearly it is Dan Ackroyd's view, not Wikipedia's.  While I agree with you, Ackroyd is notable and he did say it.      Sunray 18:08, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Honors
"the first non-American to earn this honour" marked as "[needs citation]". Does it really? The Wikipedia article on the Mark Twain Prize for Humor lists all recipients, and if you follow the links it's quite evident that each one prior to Lorne M. is an American comic. I'd say the documentation is implicit. --David Sewell 02:30, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Tyrant
Someone should add some pieces about his anal-rententive style of producing, etc. He hates improv and has banned numerous acts for either going "off-script" or critizing big media (e.g. Elvis Costello). It's also widely know that he was the inspiration behind Mike Myer's "Dr. Evil" character -- in mannerisms and personality.

Controversy "Michaels has often come under fire for his hiring policies for "Saturday Night Live", specifically the show's lack of minorities such as African Americans and Hispanics. In the 1994-1995 season, Tim Meadows was initially fired but later rehired because SNL did not want to look racist. Lorne Michaels reportedly said, "If there was another black cast member on the show, I'd fire them too."" Where is the substantiation for this link?

Canadian White Brotherhood Exactly what is this organization. I'm having trouble find information about it, let alone his involvement with it.

Controversy section should be removed on account of lack of substantiation. (no source for quotes/supposed motives for Meadows decision) Zookman12 22:43, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

I was wondering what his salary is for each season or show. In the show with Steve Martin he said something about 9 million a show, I'd love for that info to be on this page.

Early career?
I remember clearly that he appeared on a CBC TV show (maybe a summer replacement?) called "The Hart & Lorne Show" with Hart Pomerantz. Any information on that anywhere? --Wspencer11 (talk to me...) 15:21, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

80's Hiatus
I would like to see the main article go into more detail about the reason for Michaels' hiatus from the show in the 80's and why all SNL cast members from that hiatus have been shunned.. SNL was produced by Dick Ebersol during that period of Michaels' absence. With the exception of Martin Short and Julia Louis-Dreyfuss, who have each guest-hosted the show once,  no other cast member from the Ebersol era has been invited to come back as a guest host or for even as much as a cameo. 169.145.3.21 (talk) 15:15, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Second that. O0drogue0o (talk) 20:13, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Beatles $3000
George Harrison actually tried to claim the money from Michaels in a skit at the beginning of the Nov 20, 1976, show hosted by Paul Simon. Michaels tells Harrison he can't pay him because the original offer was for all of the Fab Four, but offered him a couple of hundred for saying "Live from New York, it's Saturday Night!" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.211.31.197 (talk) 19:06, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Canadian?
Lorne Michaels is a naturalized, U.S. citizen. He does not hold dual citizenship. He is a permanent resident of the United States. Therefore, why does the opening statement concerning him state that he is a "Canadian TV producer"? Maybe he used to be a Canadian TV producer, but he's been a naturalized U.S. citizen since 1987. He lives in the U.S., is a U.S. citizen, so how is he a "Canadian TV producer"? Makes no sense. This needs to be changed. Thoughts, ideas, comments? Supertheman ( talk  ) 20:32, 14 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I'd agree, Canadian-American at most seems appropriate. - Vague | Rant 02:20, 26 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Hear, Hear. Come on, Canadians!  Time to swallow your pride: when one of you becomes a US Citizen, it's time to stop using the "Canadian" only moniker.09:51, 26 October 2014 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.158.149.192 (talk)

Lipowitz > Michaels?
I can't seem to find in the article any mention of when/why (why may be obvious, but still) he changed his name from Lipowitz to Michaels. This would likely be worthwhile information. - Vague | Rant 02:20, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Personal Life
It seems to me that the personal life section is unnecessary, since almost all of the information found therein is also found earlier in the article. Thoughts? TheRealKuni (talk) 17:14, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Cleanup

 * My latest edit is for three reasons:
 * 1) Despite the apparent source in the text about Michael's middle name at birth being Michael, the infobox stated that his middle name is David; which is it?
 * 2) The info about him being a harsh boss isn't sourced.
 * 3) Several of the article's sources come from places like TV.com and YouTube, which generally aren't reliable.  Erpert  Who is this guy? 22:12, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Donald Trump Hosting SNL
There are quite a few incidents of unsubstantiated (and probably libelous) edits to the Saturday Night Live section of this article relating to Donald Trump hosting the Nov 7, 2015 episode. As far as my research has shown, Michaels has not said anything about Trump, about Trump hosting, or about the politics or policy of undocumented/"illegal" immigrants. To attribute some -ist label to him wreaks of politics. Perhaps something on the Saturday_Night_Live page would be appropriate if well-cited and written with NPOV, but it's not appropriate here as of now. Doorzki (talk) 11:34, 7 November 2015 (UTC)