Talk:Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department

Sgt Berg
This officer ordered his minion underlings to issue a jaywalking ticket to a man who he ordered over to talk to & acted very unprofessionally towards a citizen engaged in lawful activity when the man approached sgt Berg can be seen&heard in the video stating trespassing then jaywalking & wrongfully demanded the man to Id himself.with the officers being recorded worldwide u would think officers would conduct themselves appropriately & not create problems to further divide officers & citizens but tyrant officers like sgt Berg & every other officer on the scene who stood by & supported sgt bergs wrong doing only proves the back the blue mentality only served to violate citizens rights & the officers do nothing to correct the wrong doing of their sgt Berg all officers who approached the gentleman recording in public should be reprimanded for standing by and allowing sgt bergs unlawful attack on a law abiding citizen to continue.these auditors have millions of views all over the world & I'm sure phone calls have already poured in acknowledging sgt bergs wrong doing.you officers need to be professional & lawful dealing with the public every1 is recording & watching.citizens will no longer accept tyranny & citizens being violated.IN THIS DAY AND AGE.citizens will no longer be the silent victims.if you have been paying attention officers & chiefs are resigning & even going to prison all over the world once their corruption is caught.the officers doing wrong will be complained on & complained on untill their forced out or imprisoned for their misconduct.be professional the world is watching all our public servants 2600:1700:7A38:240:D116:EA0A:72CC:A767 (talk) 02:18, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Problems with lead
There a several problems with the lead:


 * It says "providing patrol services for the 153 unincorporated communities of Los Angeles County, California " but there are only 76 unincorporated areas, see List of unincorporated communities in Los Angeles County, California
 * It says "42 cities" are provided with services, but the source only says "In addition, forty of the county’s eighty-eight cities contract with the Sheriff’s Department".

-- Jules (Mrjulesd) 15:50, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Merger proposal (List of LASD deputy gangs)
There is already prose itself discussing the gang problem at the main article here, so the only non-duplicated info at List of LASD deputy gangs is the list. But the list is only 20 entries or so long; easily small enough to fit into this article. This is what it would look like from when I boldly merged it before -- it's really just 1 small section of around 20 names. Endwise (talk) 16:32, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose - on the following grounds: 1) independent notability, 2) significant area for expansion, 3) precedent from other similar lists, 4) the encyclopedic value in the coming years from such a list.
 * It's independently notable as a list per WP:NLIST. The phenomenon of deputy gangs is in and of itself notable enough for an article. See these reliable sources which significantly cover it in depth: This handily satisfies WP:NLIST which says: Notability of lists is based on the group. One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources.
 * Significant potential for expansion as an independent topic. There is a significant area for expansion in the list article based on: A) gangs by area (which municipality and if still operating), B) The lawsuit and its ensuing drama, C) any notable actions by gangs, D) notable members, E) statements from the LASD on individual deputy gangs, etc. All of these would be DUE for the list article but likely not DUE for the main LASD article.
 * Precedent from other similar article-sublist pairs. Many similar sets of main article-sublist exist for subtopics that are themselves notable, e.g. Nuremberg trials and List of defendants at the International Military Tribunal, Walt Disney World and List of incidents at Walt Disney World, Electronic cigarette and List of vaping bans in the United States.
 * Encyclopedic value moving forward. The list itself is valuable as a standalone article. The gangs are numerous, come from different places, and are changing over time. The names, characteristics, and notable events of these gangs are likely to become more notable as litigation proceeds about them. Just in the last 30 days, the article has received 11 thousand-some page views. See also these new sources which have come up just in the last year which cover the phenomenon (and the lawsuits) in depth: The New Yorker, NPR, ABC affiliate, LAist, CBS, Daily News, Newsweek, and more.
 * For all these reasons, the list should not be merged. — Shibboleth ink  (♔ ♕) 18:28, 19 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Oppose per Shibbolethink's reasonings.★Trekker (talk) 00:36, 28 December 2022 (UTC)