Talk:Lost Our Lisa/Archive 1

Unsourced stuff moved from article
This stuff below was all unsourced, so I moved it here from the article. Cirt (talk) 21:21, 9 December 2007 (UTC).

Episode cross-references

 * The Khlav Kalash/Crab juice vendor from "The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson" appears in this episode.
 * Moe is shown taking the bus, after his car was plunged in the ocean in "Dumbbell Indemnity".
 * Milhouse getting squirted with seltzer by the trick doorbell is similar to what happened to Homer when he went over to Krusty's house to get his trampoline on the season five episode "Bart's Inner Child".
 * The self-referential joke about how Homer goes on wacky adventures and Lisa should do the same is similar to Lisa telling Bart that Homer and Ned Flanders becoming friends is just another wacky adventure (then worrying that there won't be anymore wacky adventures when Homer and Ned remain friends in the end) as seen in the season five episode "Homer Loves Flanders".
 * The Orb of Isis would later be shown inside a pyramid in the season ten episode "Simpsons Bible Stories".

Cultural references

 * The X-ray specs supposedly can't see through lead, much like Superman.
 * The Springsonian museum is named very similarly to Smithsonian Museum.
 * The military base Area 51A is a reference to Area 51.
 * Comic Book Guy asking Lisa three questions is a nod to a scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
 * Comic Book Guy's phrasing "Question the first" refers to Lewis Caroll's nonsense poem The Hunting of the Snark, which is divided into 'fits', listed 'Fit the first', 'Fit the second' etc.
 * The telephone booth Lisa uses in Springfield's Russian district has an onion dome on top, similar to those on Saint Basil's Cathedral.
 * The melody played by the orb is very similar to that played by the music box in the film The Gate II.

Of course, if sources can be found to back any of this above stuff up, just make a note of it here and add it back into the article with the proper citation. Cirt (talk) 21:21, 9 December 2007 (UTC).

Going forward towards GAC
Going forward towards WP:GAC :
 * 1) Plot -- could use some more copy-editing, double-check to make sure context is provided within the plot for any info discussed in the below subsections.
 * 2) Production -- One of the cites to the DVD commentary is missing attribution to a specific person. This section looks good overall, could use some minor copy-editing.
 * 3) Themes -- ✅
 * 4) Reception -- I added two sources to create a Reception section. It's sufficient at the moment, but more could be added if found.
 * 5) Images -- One image used, detailed fair use rationale provided on the image page.
 * 6) Further reading -- I placed some sources I found here in quick searches, haven't yet gotten availability to check out the sources themselves. So at the moment it's a nicety for the reader if they want to check out more.
 * 7) Intro/Lead -- After all of the above is taken care of, we'll need to expand the Intro/Lead a bit, summarizing the rest of the article subsections. ✅ - Expanded lead, might still need some minor copy-editing / proofreading.  Cirt (talk) 21:10, 15 December 2007 (UTC).

GA Review: On Hold
I have reviewed this article according to the requirements of the GA criteria and have placed this article on hold at the time until the following issues are addressed. As you address each issue, either strike through the statement/place a check mark next to the issue and state how you addressed it. If you disagree with a particular issue, include your rationale stating why.
 * 1) "The episode is analyzed in..." In the intro, add "is analyzed in the books..." to state what these three books are, as readers may initially think they are other episodes, television shows, etc.
 * 2) "Writer Mike Scully came up with the idea because he used to live..." Specify: "idea for the plot"
 * 3) "He wondered what would have happened if he would have gotten lost on the bus, so he came up with Lisa getting lost on the bus." This sounds redundant, reword it to flow better.
 * 4) "This episode contains the last showing of character Lionel Hutz." Can you state in the production section why this was the last episode to show the character?

Altogether, the article is well-written and these above issues should be really easy to fix. Please address the above issues within seven days and I'll pass the article; if they are not fixed, the article may be failed. If you have any questions or when you are done let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Happy editing! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 08:24, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Response to above GA Review
 * 1) ✅. Added "in the books", as suggested.  Cirt (talk) 08:28, 8 January 2008 (UTC).
 * 2) ✅. Added "for the plot", as suggested.  Cirt (talk) 08:29, 8 January 2008 (UTC).
 * 3) ✅. I was a little bold and just removed this sentence.  I agree with  that it is a bit redundant.  Cirt (talk) 08:33, 8 January 2008 (UTC).
 * 4) ✅. Good point.  Expanded upon this with some more sourced info.  Gave it its own brief paragraph in the Production section.  Cirt (talk) 08:38, 8 January 2008 (UTC).

GA passed
Good job with addressing the above issues. I have passed this article according to the requirements of the GA criteria. Also, to anyone that is reading this review, please consider reviewing an article or two at WP:GAN to help with the large backlog. Instructions can be found here. Each new reviewer that helps to review articles will help to reduce the time that articles wait to be reviewed. Keep up the good work, and I hope that you continue to bring articles up to Good Article status. If anyone disagrees with this review, an alternate opinion can be sought at Good article reassessment. If you have any further questions about this review, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. I have updated the article history to reflect this review. Happy editing! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 10:09, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Russian?
This claim doesn't seem particularly clear (and also could use some tightening):

"Dan Castellaneta had to learn Russian so he could speak it during the chess scene in which he voiced the Russian chess player."

It seems obvious that Castellaneta didn't have to become fluent in Russian for a brief scene; I assume what's actually meant is that he had to learn/be coached in Russian pronunciation, but it depends on what's actually said in the commentary, which is the cited source, I guess. I'd like to change the sentence to something along the lines of

"Dan Castellaneta had to be coached in Russian pronunciation to voice the Russian chess player."

but don't want to misrepresent the source. Gusworld (talk) 06:24, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅, minor syntax fix. Cirt (talk) 06:48, 15 January 2008 (UTC).

Reception
Going to search to see if there is some more coverage in secondary sources to add to the Reception section. Cirt (talk) 01:53, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Lionel Hutz
Do we need the reference to this being his last appearance noted twice in this article? Plus, I'm sure the character apeared (obviously also unspeaking) in the Season 12 episode, "The Tale of Two Springfields" —Preceding unsigned comment added by TimothyJacobson (talk • contribs) 18:40, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes we do, this was reviewed in quality reviews by other editors and this was deemed appropriate. Cirt (talk) 18:44, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

The page for the episode "Realty Bites" claims that was Lionel Hutz's last appearance. Well, which is it? 24.52.244.5 (talk) 18:34, 1 March 2013 (UTC)