Talk:Lost books of the Hebrew Bible

Accuracy Tag
Added because title of article is incorrect and misleading. As I've stated in the merge discussion, "of" is defined as "Derived or coming from; originating at or from" or "from the total or group comprising", hence your usage of "of" in the title would denote that these books were at one time a sub-set of the Old Testament" and therefore this is a logically incorrect title. If this is not merged it needs to be moved to another title that correctly illustrates these are non-canonical books referenced in the Old Testament that were never part of the Torah.--Isotope23 14:20, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * User:BigDT pointed out an important fact in a related AfD, namely that James E. Talmage, a Mormon churchman put forth the theory in his book The Articles of Faith that certain books went missing from the Bible and that thus the Bible was incomplete. I invited User:TheEditrix, who started this and related articles, to expand on this theory in a suitable article but something tells me that that won't be forthcoming. Dr Zak 16:53, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * OK, now we are getting somewhere. I would have no problem with an properly sourced, NPOV article called Lost Books of the Bible stating Talmage's theory and listing the books he proposed were lost... particularly if Talmage published a body of work dealing with this topic.  That is not what  either the old or new testament article is though.  Right now both are apparent WP:OR that run counter to virtually all accepted Biblical scholorship done by anyone credible.--Isotope23 20:33, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I couldn't agree more. Dr Zak 21:07, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

My Opinion
I have moved "Lost books of the Old Testament" to "Lost books of the Hebrew Bible". Hebrew Bible is a neutral term for the Tanakh/Old Testament. Also, there is a tag on this page suggesting that this article be merged into Non-canonical books referenced in the Bible. I disagree as, first, this article existed before Non-canonical books referenced in the Bible and, second, the Lost books of the Hebrew Bible article would be a more accurate title dealing with the lost books of the Tanakh/Old Testament. The merge tags should be the other way around--Philo 23:00, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The title is still a misnomer though... these books were never lost from the Hebrew Bible Tanakh or Old Testament,  You should have moved it to Books referenced in the Hebrew Bible.  This title change did nothing to address the core problems with this article.--Isotope23 19:18, 3 August 2006 (UTC)