Talk:Lough Foyle

Dispute of ownership
Shouldn't something be mentioned with regards to the dispute over ownership of Lough Foyle? While neither of the states are fighting over it, the UK claims that Lough Foyle is in Northern Ireland (UK) while the Republic of Ireland claim that Lough Foyle is in Ireland.

Any thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.27.106.173 (talk) 00:57, 19 January 2011 (UTC)


 * There is no dispute over the Lough; one shore is in the UK and the other in the Republic, and betwixt the twain rolls the sea. That is all there is to it. Howard Alexander (talk) 13:39, 3 February 2011 (UTC)


 * That is pretty much totally wrong. Both sides claim the whole of Lough Foyle to be either part of the Republic of Ireland or part of the U.K. Although the dispute is not 'hot' and there are, as of 2009 (see: Partition of Ireland) no negotiations over the disputed territory, it is still disputed as the Foreign Office stated in 2009 'The UK position is that the whole of Lough Foyle is within the UK. We recognise that the Irish Government does not accept this position...There are no negotiations currently in progress on this issue.' I am only going off what is stated in another Wikipedia article but it would be contradictory not to maintain the same position through out. It seems particularly relevant to an article on Lough Foyle, to mention its disputed territorial status even if that dispute is not high on any political agendas at present.Nome3000 (talk) 14:18, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Additionally Howard Alexander, I'm sure you are aware that countries often control the waters around their shores and this can extend some distance from land. In light of your statement 'one shore is in the UK and the other in the Republic, betwixt the twain rolls the sea', who controls the sea? Or is it some kind of ethereal space that is beyond territorial claims? not quite 'all there is to it'.Nome3000 (talk) 14:44, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Indeed. As far as I am aware the whole of Lough Foyle is part of County Londonderry as set out in the creation of said county in its 1613 charter. Nothing has been done since that changes that reality. The London companies were quite greedy. It is why they had the Tyrone barony of Loughinsholin added to the new county (it had the densest forests in Ulster) and the west side of the Foyle (from Donegal) and east side of the Bann (from Antrim) added, so they could control the river mouths of said rivers. Lough Foyle was requested in its entirety so they could have exclusive fishing rights to it. Mabuska (talk) 23:02, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

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