Talk:Louis-Joseph Papineau

Joseph Papineau
The link to Joseph Papineau when you search papineau leads to this page (Louis-Joseph Papineau Joseph's Son) Can someone fix this?

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There is now an additional public domain image of Papineau. Jkelly 06:52, 26 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Yes, the daguerreotype of Papineau. It is the one used on the French language article on Papineau at fr.wikipedia.org . -- Mathieugp 12:49, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

92 Resolutions
It says in the article that the 92 resolutions were passed by the Legislative Assembly on February 21st, 1834. I seem to have a different date for this - February 17th, 1834, passed by 56 votes to 32. Is there some kind of way to ascertain which one to use, or should I just go ahead and put my date in? I have a source for it, which I could put up once I find the book in the library. The Last Melon 01:21, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Link to "Historica Heritage Minute" deleted from "External Links" section of "Louis-Joseph Papineau" article
I posted a link to the "Historica Heritage Minutes" feature on "Hart & Papineau" in the "External Links" section for this article. This link, and similar "Historica Heritage Minutes" links in other articles, were deleted the next day. These Historica "Heritage Minutes" are very informative mini-documentaries about interesting people and events in Canadian history. Can someone at Wikipedia please tell me why the links to the "Hitorica Heritage Minutes" sites were deleted from the Wikipedia pages on Papineau and from similar Wiki articles? This is the URL of one the links that was deleted: Hart & Papineau http://www.histori.ca/minutes/minute.do?id=10131 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elmridge (talk • contribs) 15:22, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

mistake on M. papineau article PLease correct it.
There is a big mistake on Mr. L.J.P. Papineau article. We can read:

"What they did not realize was that the Louisiana Acadians had been substantially assimilated into the American melting pot."

This is a false affirmation. As we can read in Julie Elizabeth Hebert article, assimilation of Louisiana Cajun to English USA culture mainly occurs after the civil war. (Between 1860 and 1960 precisely)

This mistake makes Mr. Papineau look like an idiot who did not know what was happening in USA in 1830-1850. He lived in USA 2 years in 1837-1838, he was totally aware of the situation of Cajuns and the French culture was still very strong in the Louisiana of 1830-1850.

Please correct it.

Source Identifying Cajun Identity: Cajun Assimilation and the Revitalization of Cajun Culture By Julie Elizabeth Hebert http://www.loyno.edu/~history/journal/1999-2000/Hebert.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simon Mer (talk • contribs) 16:59, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

No biographer of Papineau yet
The section entitled Character/personality(short) had several problems, the most obvious of it being its bias (probably unintended by the author). It is most likely true that Susan Mann described the Catholic clergy of Quebec as having "better networks across Quebec than did the railway", but if her opinion is consistent with the scientific literature on the subject, she was surely referring to the second half of the 19th century, coinciding with the rise of Ultramontanism in Europe, and the period of Quebec's history that begins after Papineau's liberal party was annihilated. The opinion of Fernand Ouellet on Papineau's character is even more biased and unfounded than that of Alfred Duclos de Celles. Basically, in terms of biographical information on Papineau, we have Laurent-Olivier David, Robert Rumilly and others who glorify him excessively, or Alfred Duclos de Celles and Fernand Ouellet who censor him. The truth is that some 140 years after Papineau's death, there is still no serious biography of him, which is a pity. Luckily, there never has been so much of his writings available online or in print than now, so people who are not afraid to read can form their own opinion of Papineau's character and personality whenever they want. -- Mathieugp (talk) 19:27, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Montreal Annexation Manifesto

 * A convinced republican after a long exile in the United States and France, Papineau supported the Montreal Annexation Manifesto that called for Canada to join the United States of America.

I have checked Montreal Annexation Manifesto on Wikipedia, it sources from William Teatley's "Cornelius Krieghoff, the Shakspeare Club and the Annexation Manifesto", and I saw four Papineau among the signatories, but not Louis-Joseph Papineau. That claim seems clearly wrong.173.176.120.156 (talk) 21:38, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for bringing this up. I agree that Papineau's name does not appear on the list given in that article, but multiple other sources say that he either signed or supported it e.g. .  I think we have to go with the preponderance of historical sources here. --Slp1 (talk) 21:58, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Metro station
Montreal metro stations are named for streets or landmarks near the station. They are almost never commemorative, except in a derivative sense. Thus Papineau metro station is named for Papineau Avenue. Papineau Avenue was originally Papineau Road, named for Louis-Joseph's father Joseph.

On the other hand, it is true that the name Papineau is much more frequently thought of in connection with Louis-Joseph, and the artwork in the Papineau station commemorates the son, not the father.

In summary: Louis-Joseph Papineau is commemorated by artwork installed in the metro station that serves the street named for his father.

– Justinbb (talk) 13:49, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * , I've corrected that in the lead, and added a couple citations, one for the public artwork in the Metro station, and another for the school. Do you think that both of these should be moved to a new section - maybe called Legacy? Netherzone (talk) 15:08, 15 May 2021 (UTC)