Talk:Louis Brooks (rodeo cowboy)

Hi Giants2008

It's me, there's a slight mistake in the rodeo organization for which Brooks won his world championships. I'm going to call this one my fault, because I don't think I directly told you that the world championships from 1929-1944 were all won under the Rodeo Association of America. And the RCA did not exist until 1945 so it couldn't be the one he won them under. There was the Cowboys Turtle Association from 1936 to 1944 which then was renamed to the RCA in 1945. Of course I have sources; I don't expect you to take my word for it.


 * Rodeo Organizations which states that the Cowboys Turtle Association changed their name to the Rodeo Cowboys Association in 1945. So, the RCA didn't exist when Brooks won his six world championships. It also states that the Rodeo Association of America formed in 1929. "World Champions were to be selected in the following events: bronc riding, bull riding, bareback riding, calf roping, steer roping, bulldogging, team roping and wild cow milking."


 * Encyclopedia Britannica - Rodeo


 * Texas State Historical Association - Rodeos


 * Rodeo "In 1929 a group of rodeo producers formed the Rodeo Association of America (RAA) to standardize rules, establish a point system to determine world champions, monitor judges, and establish fair practices in awarding prize money."


 * History of the PRCA. Just FYI, the RCA changed its name to the PRCA in 1975, along with many other rodeo name changes, etc.


 * "From 1929 through 1944, champions were named by the Rodeo Association of America." Good resource

p.s. Just in case you aren't sure? It's okay to say that all of the world championships were won in the PRCA. After all, they own and publish all of those organizations' records now. Their media guide, the ProRodeo Hall of Fame site, and the PRCA web site's Historical Champions page credit all of the world champions to the PRCA. However, it doesn't mean you can't credit the older organizations if you are intending to do so for historical purposes. I have done it, but I also mention the PRCA as the present organization when I do it. Anyway, the PRCA did not go out of their way to make it easy to see what organizations were responsible for the which world champions historically. You won't find the PRCA documenting on their website that the RAA was responsible for the first world champions. dawnleelynn(talk) 03:18, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Dawn, I'm just getting back into my editing routine after a few months of being semi-active and noticed this message deep in my watchlist. It appears that you are correct. The whole thing is very confusing, but the RAA was apparently the governing body in question during Brooks' career, so I've made fixes to address the issue. Thanks for noticing that, and sorry I didn't see this earlier. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 17:33, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Giants2008, no worries! I knew you would get to it when you could. And I agree it is confusing. A couple things may help a bit:
 * The Cowboy Turtles Association renamed to the Rodeo Cowboys Association in 1945 and then to the Professional Rodeo Cowboys Association in 1975. The PRCA is just the most recent name in this organization that started in 1936. It's all one organization that just renamed itself two times. So whatever you usually do with a sports organization that has renamed itself applies. For example, the WWF renamed to the WWE. I noticed that they have articles under both names, but the WWF articles have plenty mentions of WWE in them.
 * The Rodeo Association of America which started in 1929 renamed itself to the International Rodeo Association in 1946. In 1955 it conceded that the RCA was superior and closed up. All of their records went to the RCA. It makes sense that world championships from 1929 to 1935 had to be with them, because the PRCA didn't exist until 1936. And records point to the ones from 1937 to 1944 being under the RAA as well. But a really substantial citation is hard to find. I'm always looking, and if I find new information, I'll be sure to pass it along. Hope this helps. Thanks! dawnleelynn(talk) 19:27, 14 May 2019 (UTC)