Talk:Louisiana Maneuvers

Cleanup
This article is horribly written and needs some immense cleanup. --Daysleeper47 (talk) 19:10, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Definitely - let's get started shall we? DMorpheus (talk) 16:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I did a little reorganizing, wikilinking, and writing. It is still crappy but slightly less so. ;) Regards, DMorpheus (talk) 17:30, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Corrected statment that it was only at ft polk. added Wiki links.

see http://www.militarytrader.com/article/1941_LOUISIANA_MANEUVERS:%20THE_BIG_ONE/ This story says that the south army was invading the US from the sea. IE not a dispute over the river as stated here.

Also the story of General Patton going outside the training area into Texas and driving tanks accross texas highways to make a surprise atack on Shreveport from the north is retold several times. So, now it's gone entirely, you commie bastards. Very important, because it pissed off the mush heads in charge. And that is how you WIN wars. By killing and destroying everyone, and not following rules.

Sattmaster (talk) 05:47, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

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 * Live and learn. I will be adding to this article when I have time.
 * There is a concern in the "Exercises" section concerning the boundaries. "The area was bounded on the west by the Sabine River, on the east by the Calcasieu River, and on the north by the Red River at Shreveport.".
 * The boundaries included the Sabine River to the west, that was of course not followed and the Red River to the east. The listed, possibly "intended" east boundary of the Calcasieu, is either a mistake or an intent that was not followed from the beginning. The Calcasieu, as far as I can now see, was never part of any boundaries.


 * Both armies had starting points or "restraining lines" (demarcation line) before the start of the Phase 2 exercises. The blue (commanded by Krueger) basically with three branches and two flanking, and the red (Lear commanding) with the far larger army, tasked with defending Shreveport, and separated into four branches with two flanking. Both armies had reserves.


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 * The Blue Army headquarters was moved from near Lafayette to headquarter in Kinder, Louisiana, that is east of the Calcasieu. When the "maneuvers" started the 1st Cavalry crossed into Texas above Merryville, Louisiana as well as east of the Red River through Alexandria, to north of Colfax, Louisiana.


 * The Red Army moved from Winnfield, Louisiana to a position with both armies facing each other. At the start the Red Army had forces to the west of the Sabine (2nd Cavalry, west of San Augustine, Texas) as well as the 5th Inf. on the east side of the Sabine.


 * According to plan the Red Army began to withdraw to specified defensive points. The goal was to burn bridges and destroy culverts to slow the "enemy". If Shreveport was held at the prescribed ending time they would win.
 * At a point the 1st Cavalry began to move north between US 96 ans the Sabine. A part of the Blue Army's 2nd Inf crossed the Sabine at Burr Ferry, Louisiana to Jasper, Texas, while the rest of the 2nd Inf and part of the 2nd Armor crossed into Texas (both below the 2nd Cavalry) through Bon Wier, Texas, and north to Jasper, Texas, where they joined up continuing north through San Augustine and Center, Texas to just north of Tenaha, Texas. At this point the group split with a part heading through Joaquin, Texas towards Logansport, Louisiana. The remainder continued north to Carthage, Texas then west across the Sabine and the Red's 1st Armor.
 * This was diversionary as Patton took the main body of the 2nd Cavalry through Lake Charles, Louisiana, Beaumont, Texas, Woodville, Texas, Nacogdoches, Henderson, Louisiana, then a northeast swing around Marshall, Texas on the west side, continuing the northeast swing around Caddo Lake, and down to Shreveport. Patton's controversial 400 mile jump through Texas, going through to flank Shreveport caused the Red Army commander afterwards to proclaim foul.


 * References:


 * The U.S. Army GHQ Maneuver of 1941, pages 97-to 100.
 * The National WWII Museum