Talk:Love Island (American TV series) season 1

Class Column
Just asking for the future of the series, would we just delete this column after the season is over since everyone would be dumped except for the winners? It wouldn't make sense to keep the column for just the two winners. Jayab314 02:06, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry for that by the way I didn't mean to revert your edits. Feel free to reinstate as they were non-controversial edits just trying to maintain the most-agreed on version of the article on the big things since we have editors who think this article has to look identical to other versions. I think deleting the column after it's over makes sense, I was gonna suggest that once it was over. The Doctor Who  (talk) 02:11, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

This should be deleted now. The ‘Late Arrival’ section wouldn’t work when the islanders are dumped in a different order. You clearly haven’t thought this through at allTellyShows (talk) 02:12, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes it would, we would split the column... Jayab314  02:13, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

It’s unnecessary clutter. The reader can see that an islander is a late arrival by looking at the day they entered, and they can see an islander was dumped because the word ‘DUMPED’ is next to their name. TellyShows (talk) 02:15, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * The "Dumped Islanders" was deleted. The "Initial Islanders" and "Late Arrival Islanders" is for quick glances to see if they were in the villa from Day 1 or not. Jayab314  02:19, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

These are exactly the same people that ruined the Big Brother articles. It’s how it happened before. They start with the US and they work their way to other countries. I’m not letting this happen — Preceding unsigned comment added by TellyShows (talk • contribs) 02:16, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * The US version of Big Brother is a different format, if you want to discuss, head to WikiProject Big Brother. Jayab314  02:19, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * If you care so much, I suggest you become a member of the WikiProject seeing as you already already one. Jayab314  02:23, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * For the record You can't personally decide whether it happens or not. It's a community-wide decision.   The Doctor Who  (talk) 02:24, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Also please refrain from personal attacks with phrases like These are the same people that ruined Big Brother articles and They start with the US and they work their way to other countries making it sound as if we personally infect the articles or something. The Doctor Who  (talk) 02:26, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Why was this even added? The reader can clearly tell the initial islanders from the late arrivals based on the day they entered. This is unnecessary clutter and it does not look nice imo. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 03:59, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Per TheDoctorWho’s first edit to add it to the table, it was an effort to organize it better. I made a few edits on it making it not look so cluttered, but I see it as a quick way to see if someone was in the villa since Day 1. Jayab314  04:06, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Why not just look...at the day entered. I don't know why we're overcomplicating things so much on the American edition's article. It's the exact same format as the original version, it does not need these unnecessary editions. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 04:07, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't like the fact that "overcomplicating" and "unnecessary" is being used to describe the word "different" which is all this really is. The bigger issue here is that a lot of people think everything has to look identical. That works for some things but in other cases it often prevents us from improving the article. I'm not just speaking about the table in this case but the article as a whole and what went down earlier today after the episode finished airing. The Doctor Who  (talk) 04:14, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't know about every instance you're talking about, but this little "late arrival"/"initial islander" is overcomplicating. It is essentially putting the same information in the table twice. If Caro entered on Day 1, she is clearly an "initial islander", if Cormac entered on day Day 4, he is clearly a "late arrival". There is no need to express that twice, not to mention the way the class section is separating the islanders into two groups is gonna make things look very off when more islanders are dumped, considering there is a chance almost every other islander will be a different class. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 04:18, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * For reference this is the initial edit I added that split the table into three different sections. I personally think if not either of these versions that some kind of split is useful. Perhaps I'm wrong though. The Doctor Who  (talk) 04:22, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Maybe if we get rid of the column, we can just change the background of the entrance day to show a difference between initial and late arrival islanders (ex: Initial Islanders's get a purple background and Late Arrival Islanders get a pink background).
 * {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;"

! style="width:150px;"|Islander ! style="width:50px;"|Age ! style="width:120px;"|Residence ! style="width:50px;"|Entered ! style="width:50px;"|Exited ! style="width:150px;"|Status
 * Zac Mirabelli
 * 22
 * Chicago, Illinois
 * style="background:#a591f3" | Day 1
 * style="background:#A9F5F2;"| Participating
 * Dylan Curry
 * 25
 * San Diego, California
 * style="background:#e991f3" | Day 4
 * style="background:#A9F5F2;"| Participating
 * }
 * I'd be more inclined to support this color-coding, but I still fail to see why it's necessary to distinguish between initial islanders and late arrivals at all. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 04:33, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * My original reason for attempting some sort of organization was because I noticed that the late-arrivals were mixed in with the initial islanders and readers could potentially skip right over it if you had five Day 1 entry's above and below it. I figured that some sort of organization was needed. The Doctor Who  (talk) 04:37, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * style="background:#A9F5F2;"| Participating
 * }
 * I'd be more inclined to support this color-coding, but I still fail to see why it's necessary to distinguish between initial islanders and late arrivals at all. <b style="color: #AB2B2B;">{ [ ( jjj</b> <b style="color: #000000;">1238 ) ] }</b> 04:33, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * My original reason for attempting some sort of organization was because I noticed that the late-arrivals were mixed in with the initial islanders and readers could potentially skip right over it if you had five Day 1 entry's above and below it. I figured that some sort of organization was needed. The Doctor Who  (talk) 04:37, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

As a thought with this being an apparent fast-growing franchise would you guys be interested in helping to set up some sort of WikiProject similar to WikiProject Big Brother where we lay out standards on what a general article should look like and how it should be set up to prevent large-scale type disputes like this in the future? The Doctor Who (talk) 04:42, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, I would definitely be interested in that. I think WikiProjects are very necessary to avoid things like these. As for your concern, I really still don't think it's necessary. If someone is concerned with differentiating the late arrivals from the initial islanders they will pay close attention to the days entered. Also, in the end there will probably be 20-30 islanders, so the idea that the Day 1 arrivals will drown out the other days in the table is an unneeded concern I'd say. There is no concern with that on the finished British articles. <b style="color: #AB2B2B;">{ [ ( jjj</b> <b style="color: #000000;">1238 ) ] }</b> 04:48, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I would be very insterested in a WikiProject for Love Island. As for the class column/background, I think it would be safe to just go ahead and take out the column and put the backgrounds in with a note stating what they're for. If there are any future concerns over the backgrounds, I would not be opposed to deleting the backgrounds, too. Jayab314  11:08, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with the color backgrounds and after Jjj1238 mentioned it I checked out some of the British articles and it does not seem to be as much of a concern with so many late arrivals mixed in. So I'd be fine if it ended up getting removed. The Doctor Who  (talk) 21:16, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * As for the WikiProject I would love to start gathering some ideas and making sure we have everything organized and enough participants before actually creating the pages so I've copied the blank WikiProject skeleton to this sandbox of mine. Feel free to edit the page and we can use that talk page to communicate as we start ironing things out. The Doctor Who  (talk) 21:57, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Unnecessary use of colour. Removing.TellyShows (talk) 00:51, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Please do not just add a statement to the talk page and take that as the final decision. I am for the backgrounds in order to differentiate between Day 1 entrances and later entrances. It is not a major change and is just a different background depending on when they entered. I see no problem with having it, but I am open to deleting it if a consensus is reached. Jayab314  00:56, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Agreed. In fact, the Islanders and Coupling tables are both eye sores. Miss HollyJ (talk) 08:13, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm for either way on the Islanders table, I'm fine with whatever the general consensus is on it. As for the coupling table I think it should stay as is other than possibly adding who the couples voted for in the most recent episode and possibly changing some colors around. The Doctor Who  (talk) 08:29, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Can we get an explicit vote going just to see what the consensus is about the colors in the islanders table? I for one am against differentiating when the islanders entered, whether it be by color or whatever. <b style="color: #AB2B2B;">{ [ ( jjj</b> <b style="color: #000000;">1238 ) ] }</b> 20:23, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I support this. Miss HollyJ (talk) 00:20, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Do you support the column or do you support deleting the column? Jayab314  00:36, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Pinging editors in attempt to garner consensus:    <b style="color: #AB2B2B;">{ [ ( jjj</b> <b style="color: #000000;">1238 ) ] }</b> 01:06, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Just as a note won't be back here, they've been blocked as a confirmed sock.  The Doctor Who  (talk) 01:18, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

The season finished a while ago and this problem seems to have disappeared. I would like a vote on this subject or even a peer review of this article since it is a GA nominee. Jayab 314  12:44, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Finalists photo
What do you think about replacing the finalists photo with something less-collage type. I personally prefer something a little more professional and something where they're all together and not four different photos put together. Something like this would be my first choice and this would be my second? The Doctor Who (talk) 05:09, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I like the second choice better as it's clear to see who is who, but either option is fine. Jayab314  11:42, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I also prefer your second choice. It is very difficult to see the contestants in your first choice. <b style="color: #AB2B2B;">{ [ ( jjj</b> <b style="color: #000000;">1238 ) ] }</b> 18:31, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 * The Doctor Who (talk) 06:42, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

The finalists photo in this article is currently up for deletion. Jayab 314  16:43, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up, I've left a detailed message contesting the deletion on that files talk if you would like to join is as well. As a side note I've also left a message on the talk page of the administrator that previously declined File:Celebrity Big Brother 2 Cast.jpg for speedy since it was nominated again.  The Doctor Who (Happy Christmas!) 02:51, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

House image
Considering an image for the villa section. Thoughts on this or this? I'm thinking the first of those right now. The Doctor Who (talk) 00:59, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I definitely like the first one better as it shows the lights and customs signs more than the second one. Jayab314  14:00, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
 * My thoughts exactly, I'll get that uploaded and added. The Doctor Who  (talk) 21:14, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
 * The Doctor Who (talk) 21:29, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Day Number
I started an extensive study into what day everything happened on. In order to do this, I am looking at EXIF data to tell me at what day and time a photo was taken at (off of CBS Press Express). This way, I can correlate dates to day numbers. I made a Google Slide that shows this information (see here). Jayab314 19:57, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
 * That sounds good! It'll help us make sure our days in the article are correct. I figure they're mostly correct anyways but always good to double check. The Doctor Who  (talk) 20:26, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Ok, great! I’m a little busy right now as I had to leave, but I’ll make sure the google slides thing is finished by tonight. Jayab314  20:28, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Take your time, there's no rush and it'll be easy to fix any wrong days considering how extensive the episode summaries are. The Doctor Who  (talk) 20:33, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I am pretty sure I finished it. It all seems to line up and make sense, so I think we're good. Jayab314  01:30, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Looks good! The Doctor Who  (talk) 01:08, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Reunion
It's not a big event but does anyone think it's worth mentioning the reunion on here? (Here's a few sources, , )  The Doctor Who (Happy Christmas!) 02:29, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * A reunion section under Production would be fine, and I can work on it tomorrow afternoon. Should specific things they stated such as Kyra and Cashel’s break up be mentioned or would that be more gossip-y and un-encyclopedic? Jayab  314  03:12, 1 December 2019 (UTC)