Talk:Love and Theft (Bob Dylan album)

Quotation marks?
do not move, per WP:MOSTM. Jafeluv (talk) 16:44, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Love and Theft → "Love and Theft" &mdash; I moved this because I thought is was misnamed, and then I saw that the quotes are part of the actual title - NJGW (talk) 00:07, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Has anyone else noticed that on the album cover, and on bobdylan.com, the title of the album is written with quotes, "Love and Theft"? Meanwhile, none of his other albums are notated thusly. Should thisl page be moved to "Love and Theft" so as to accurately get the album's name? Tix 22:29, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't think that the quotation marks are part of the title. The page should be moved back.Alcuin (talk) 19:53, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Bloody "Se7en" syndrome. If it means anything Bob Dot Com doesn't have them in the title on their entry anymore. Applemask (talk) 23:05, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed and moved back. However, since there has been a long standing debate about this, without a firm resolution in the wikiproject albums style entry, I've left a question for the wikiproject, where those interested should comment. +sj  +  05:37, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * See WP:MOSTM. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:17, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I would tend to oppose using quotation marks. They seem to be a stylistic flair that WP:MOSTM says to eschew.  Other albums with quotes on the album covers such as MCMXC a.D. - "The Limited Edition", "Addictions": Volume 1, "Youthquake", and "Erasure" also don't have quotes in their Wikipedia titles.  I have also posted notice of this discussion at WT:ALBUMS.  —   AjaxSmack   00:49, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Problem with link
In the paragraph:

"In the article published in the Journal, a line from "Floater" ("I'm not quite as cool or forgiving as I sound") was traced to a line in the book, which said "I'm not as cool or forgiving as I might have sounded." A number of other examples were listed, all of which can be found at http://www.dylanchords.com/41_lat/textual_sources.htm"

The URL does not work - it gives a 404 error.

kot quote
The opening track, "'Tweedle Dee & Tweedle Dum, includes many references to parades in Mardi Gras in New Orleans, where participants are masked, and "determined to go all the way" of the parade route, in spite of being intoxicated. It rolls in like a storm, drums galloping over the horizon into ear shot, guitar riffs slicing with terse dexterity while a tale about a pair of vagabonds unfolds," writes Kot.

first of all, there should be another single quotation mark to close the title, if indeed that whole thing is part of the kot quote. second, ok, there's a parade in the song, but i see nothing else that suggests this song is about mardi gras. seriously, i'm supposed to believe that "determined to go all the way" just means all the way through a parade? --Progjunky 01:55, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup
Hi, I've tagged the article ready for cleanup. The main points which need addressing are:
 * There are lots of quotes - probably too many! Much of their content could be summarized in the text without directly quoting.
 * The citations are quite poor at the moment. Lots of work needs to be done to find the sources for all the information in the article.  I've marked most of the places I think could use a reference.
 * The references that are already there need converting to inline citations.
 * The Miscellanea section should be converted to prose and possibly merged into the main text.

Thanks - Alex valavanis 09:14, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Production credits
Please can a knowledgeable person add details to the Personnel section? Production details should be there according to WP:ALBUM B-class guidelines. Thanks Papa November 23:49, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Plagiarism
Perhaps using the word "plagiarism" is unnecessarily inflammatory. The WSJ article doesn't actually use that word. It's not uncommon for blues singers to use lines that other people wrote; blues and folk songs have traditionally always been under a sort of public ownership. The author of the book itself also didn't complain: he felt honored to be a source of inspiration. 77.250.97.191 (talk) 19:44, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

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September 11 attacks
The album was released on the same day of the September 11 attacks, yet nothing about that fact is in the article. The book Tearing the World Apart has a chapter about how Love and Theft was received in the wake of the attacks. Others have written about it, for instance a reporter for McAlester News-Capital in Oklahoma. Far Out magazine wrote about all the music unfortunately scheduled for release that day. It's a thing. Binksternet (talk) 16:19, 12 March 2022 (UTC)