Talk:Loyd Carrier

Loyd Carrier main photo
I believe the main picture on this page is actually an Oxford Carrier207.112.41.126 (talk) 03:49, 17 April 2009 (UTC) Picture Now corrected to show a Loyd. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajmacv8 (talk • contribs) 10:39, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

The use of the CATI in the Belgian Army was much longer than 1962. When I had my military education on the 2 SCOOK we exercised with the CATI at Leopoldburg in 1964. In 1967 I got my drivers license for CATI in Spich(Germany) in the 1st Bn Cyclists as sgt Rosez V. S/77779 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.203.68.55 (talk) 13:46, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Universal carrier?
How does the Loyd relate to the Universal? (I know the obvious roadwheel difference)  Which came first? Did they develop independently, or in succession? How did they come to use so many common components? Why were two versions built? Was this deliberate, was there a reason, or was it just typical British duplication? Andy Dingley (talk) 13:12, 14 January 2014 (UTC)


 * At a guess, the Loyd was designed as a private venture and was then placed into production to supplement the 'official' Universal Carrier.


 * IIRC, they were all descended from the 'Dragon' (drag-gun) tracked artillery tractors developed in the inter-war years, and these also used the Horstmann suspension and track system/running gear as-per the Vickers Light Tanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.24.216.123 (talk) 14:51, 30 June 2014 (UTC)


 * The loyd was a private venture by Vivian Loyd who had been part of the development team at Vickers when they developed the early Light Tank suspension which was used on the Universal and Loyd machines. He saw an opening for a tracked unarmoured utility vehicle and put the idea to the authorities in 1939, it was cheap and could be put into production almost right away as it used standard components which were already tried and tested.  Following the dark days of 1940 any and all vehicles were required and the Loyd went into serious production.  It was only later that bolt on frontal armour was fitted once the main role as a tracked tower had developed, as such it was not a direct competetor to the Universal Carrier.  In terms of towing the AT guns it was better suited than the UC as more ammunition could be carried and it was easier for the crew to dismount via the open rear of the Loyd.Ajmacv8 (talk) 11:12, 27 March 2018 (UTC)