Talk:Lubbock, Texas

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I'm not going to make a big deal out of Oliver's misunderstanding of the use of links, but the idea that somehow Lubbock County, Texas is somehow preferable is debatable. -- Zoe

Sorry, but I prefer it too. The reason we started to put the state after the county and town was for disambiguation. I don't see why we can't have a link to the state too. I've been doing it in my articles. Danny 03:40 Feb 2, 2003 (UTC)

I don't see any problem with including a link to the state, but I DO see a problem with hiding the real link. -- Zoe

It's what we do with most cases of disambiguation. For example, county would look silly if we left the full title of the "county (England)" showing in the article. I know that's not quite the same thing, but it demonstrates that hiding the full title of the article is not always a Bad Thing. In the example under discussion, it would be obvious from the context that the Lubbock being linked to was the one in Texas, from the following word, and anyone who wants to see the article title in full can always go to the article to have a look. -- Oliver P. 03:52 Feb 2, 2003 (UTC)

I believe that the 4th on Broadway event has been disbanded (it didn't happen this year). You also forgot to mention Prarie Dog Town (one of the local attractions!). :) :)
 * 4th on Broadway has been held every year since 1991. Bill Curnow 04:08, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, Berkeley%2C_California also claims to be the city in the US with the most churches per-capita. Seems like wikipedia shouldn't have two articles that conflict like that. Mk2337 20:43, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

I am confused as to the reference of the 2004 US Census, as the census only occurs every 10 years, the next one taking place in 2010, and the previous in 2000. Tentonbricks 18:26, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, you're correct that the US Census occurs every 10 years but they also did an estimate of an US city's total and MSA population in 2004 if you visit their website. Someone didn't clarified that in the article which is technically wrong. Good thing you catch that. --Don Vito Corleone 18:58, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

As a survivor of the 1970 Tornado and a long time storm spotter the Tornado had to of been and F-3, it was in no way an F-5. I have seen a couple of debris trails from F-5s and I don’t think the1970 tornado measured up… [ User:rdcole June 24th 2006 ]

In the "People and Culture" section, you have a comment regarding an episode of "The Simpsons" which appears to disparage the MS National Guard and The League of Women Voters. Although I hate to be the 'wet rag' that spoils your amusement, I find this paragraph to be non-encyclopedic, offensive, and at the very least, not maintaining "a neutral, unbiased point of view". --OutOfWhack (talk) 17:34, 29 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I think that that paragraph is appropriate for this article. The fact is that Lubbock is mentioned on national television from time to time in a way that pokes fun at it.  We have learned to enjoy this, whether it was Johnny Carson saying that "Lubbock" sounds like what a bullfrog says, or Mike on All in the Family accidentally getting the Lubbock sheriff's office as a wrong number and hearing that there are chickens loose on the highway.  I always enjoyed saying to out-of-town visitors that I would take them to see the sight (singular), by which, of course, I meant the prarie dog town.  Sterrettc (talk) 20:09, 29 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Fair enough. In Mississippi, there is a perpetual disrespect of OUR "People and Culture", which disrespect has collectively come at a price greater than that of a "friendly wink and a jab to the shoulder", and has helped to leave us weary of such attention.  Perhaps I missed the humor or have just become stodgy in my years.  Nevertheless, I believe that your fine article for Lubbock can be improved by removing just the last sentence of "that paragraph", as it really doesn't have anything to do with Lubbock nor does it improve on the humor of "that paragraph".  The decision is yours; I don't beat horses--dead or alive ;-).  --OutOfWhack (talk) 11:03, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Removal of reference to "North Englewood Lubbock"
There was a small article attached to this that made references to an area in Lubbock called "North Englewood". I couldn't seem to place that area, and I know without a doubt that it is NOT the second largest hangout for students. If anyone knows any differently please post or correct the article. I'm going to assume that it must have been someone looking for free advertising. BoogerManus 02:36, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * North Englewood is probably a typo for North Overton. There has been some serious gentrification in Lubbock since the late 1990's that is not at all covered in this article, and North Overton has been the epicenter of this gentrification. I'd really like to see more information about all these changes in the article, if anyone knows more details.RobertLM78 21 December 2012 (MT).  —Preceding undated comment added 19:38, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Lubbock has some of the highest teen pregnancy and STD rates in the nation.
People should know what they are dealing with.


 * Irrelevant Comment, I am not sure if this comment can be removed. 202.70.205.133 12:20, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Highest teen pregnancy rates by county (latest data) would be Ector, TX - NE of Houston - not Lubbock. Rklawton 14:35, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

need to add that the largest, private collection of records from the vietnam war is in Lubbock at TTU.
Was just hoping that someone would add that the largest private collection of documents, photographs, etc. from the Vietnam War is in Lubbock at Texas Tech University. 24.32.40.184 00:01, 11 May 2007 (UTC) Sgt. Keith M. Anderson, US Army Public Affairs NCO, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division, Fort Polk, Louisiana. (I'm from Lubbock.)


 * The information is already included in the Texas Tech article. Do you think it's appropriate for this article, too? --Wordbuilder 01:05, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Illegal orange shirts?
Could someone please provide a valid reference that confirms the statement that orange shirts are illegal in Lubbock? Sounds fishy but okay to remain if someone has evidence. Thanks. Truthanado 08:15, 30 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Seems like I reverted that nonsense once in the past. Ah well, it's gone now. --Wordbuilder 13:38, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Little League World Series
Does anyone want to add information about Lubbock playing in the Little League World Series this year? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pygmypony (talk • contribs) 21:34, August 25, 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes. This is just as just as notable as a Major League team competing in the World Series. If you don't have a chance to add it, then I will. →Wordbuilder 23:49, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Hello people!!!!!!
This really helped me alot on my project!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.95.18.61 (talk) 16:07, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Hub City
From a geographical perspective, Lubbock's Hub City status may also be attributable to the layout of major regional highways coming together at Lubbock. The city is the hub of an array of highways acting as spokes drawing in outlying citizens to its urban resources (which are cultural, economic, medical, etc). Also of interest in the fact that in the region those roadways are named for the places to which they go from Lubbock one may travel the Tahoka Highway to Tahoka or the Leveland Highway to Leveland. In those towns traveling to Lubbock one travels the Lubbock Highway.... There is also Buffalo Lakes Road, etc. Emergency Response addressing may lead to a cultural shift away from such nomenclature. Dw5 (talk) 01:56, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Interesting. If you have sources for this, add it to the article. Otherwise, it's original research. →Wordbuilder (talk) 03:53, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Worst teeth in the U.S.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080313/ap_on_he_me/worst_teeth --Xyzzyplugh (talk) 20:18, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Ranking
Both the Amarillo and Lubbock pages say that those cities are the 12th largest in Texas67.170.87.150 (talk) 03:56, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Thanks! →Wordbuilder (talk) 04:39, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Alcohol petition
whats up with the alcohol petition part? was some PAC trying to re-do prohibition? 18k signatures were required,and 25k were gathered...to do what? ban it? provide it free of charge? I hate communists and socialist, and am severly biased against regular consumer/citizens who have been brainwashed by them... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.16.68.19 (talk) 04:38, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * As far as alcohol was concerned, Lubbock was dry. There was a successful move to make it wet. Are you confused by the wording of the article? If so, please let me know and I will try to clarify the text. →Wordbuilder (talk) 14:24, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * As the editor who wrote the majority of the prose in that section, I am always looking for ways to improve its readability. I have reworded that sentence to make it a little more clear. If you have any more suggestions, please let us know. Thanks! --Voltin (talk) 15:54, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Tallest buildings
The listing of tallest buildings in Lubbock is wrong because it does not list the Business College office tower and the Architecture Building on the TTU campus. They are both 10 stories high and taller than the Landmark Building. Is TTU in Lubbock? Either put a disclaimer or change the list. I don't know how to do this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.151.26.75 (talk) 18:31, 16 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Texas Tech is in Lubbock, so you may have a point. I'm not sure who did the research for the tallest building portion. It was merged from another article. →Wordbuilder (talk) 20:05, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Population
In July 2012 several edits were made to Lubbock's population in the article revising the 2010 census figures of ~229,000 resident up to ~256,000. The 2011 census estimates for the city are ~233,000 but I cannot find anything that supports the 256,000 for 2012. Estimates are usually made the following year (2011 estimates came out in March 2012), so such a figure would be a prediction. Fredlyfish4 (talk) 23:18, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
 * If it's not cited, feel free to use a figure that is backed up by a reliable, third-party source. →Wordbuilder (talk) 00:43, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Threat of Invasion from the United Nations
I was shocked to learn that Lubbock and its environs are under imminent threat of invasion from the United Nations. The horrifying facts were laid out in earnest by the presiding Judge, Tom Head. To wit:

Official Stirs Texas City With Talk of Rebellion Judge Wants Tax Increase To Defend Against (Possible) Civil War

I feel some mention should be made of plans to defend the city against the threat of U.N. Invasion. This is a very serious matter, apparently. george (talk) 04:34, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Just as a follow up, as we entered 2013 I noticed that Lubbock and its environs remain unmolested by United Nations troops, no doubt due to the watchful and dutiful Judge Head. So at this time, I feel that the threat is contained and need not be mentioned in the article. george (talk) 21:59, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Structure
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Notable people section
I removed Todd Mankin form this section because he does not have his own Wikipedia page which is required to establish notability per Wikipedia guidelines. Thanks --BuzyBody (talk) 20:42, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Lubbock, 'Old Lubbock', Monterey
As far as I can tell 'Old Lubbock' (North Town) and Monterey moved to a completely new site, on the south side of Yellow House canyon (the same side as Monterey). At the moment the Wiki article says that 'Old Lubbock' moved to the site of Monterey. Another point; was the town on the north of the canyon ever called 'Old Lubbock' or was it called Lubbock and also North Town? My feeling is that the name 'Old Lubbock' may be just an editorial convenience to describe North Town/Lubbock.

http://www.visitlubbock.org/visit/Lubbock+History http://lubbocktv.com/history/ http://www.depts.ttu.edu/museumttu/HISTORY%20OF%20LUBBOCK%20KITrev.pdf https://www.co.lubbock.tx.us/department/division.php?fDD=13-66 http://lubbockonline.com/stories/060505/lif_225345.shtml http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIhGFG1FHa4 http://plainshumanities.unl.edu/encyclopedia/doc/egp.ct.031 (note, one section is duplicated) http://www.ttuhsc.edu/som/immunology/prospective_students/lubbocklife.aspx http://www.lubbockcentennial.com/Landmarks/122108.shtml http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=MB47NPcPOxEC&pg=PA15&lpg=PA15&dq=old+lubbock&source=bl&ots=mhVf70YA0q&sig=a9UA35cluXSPlTAUcEnN8NULVpw&hl=en&sa=X&ei=KGpyVO7OE9bYaovMgIAE&ved=0CCcQ6AEwATiMAQ#v=onepage&q=old%20lubbock&f=false (book extract: Historic Lubbock County)

CPES (talk) 21:23, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

I have edited the article to take care of the above while maintaining the spirit of the previous text. CPES (talk) 01:32, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

USPS?
"The United States Postal Service operates post offices in Lubbock." Is this sentence really worth retaining? It seems rather facetious, but I'm actually not sure if it might indeed be notable in a Texas context. If so, it seems like a clarifying citation might be needed - yes/no? jxm (talk) 02:08, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

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Requested move 23 December 2018

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: not moved. Closing early per WP:SNOW  Calidum   06:28, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

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Lubbock, Texas → Lubbock – Is the primary topic, no other Lubbocks either.  IWI  ( chat ) 15:36, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * There are others such as the crater, surname, album and Mount Lubbock this is clearly primary by views [|Mount_Lubbock|Lubbock_(crater)|Lubbock_(surname)|Lubbock_(On_Everything)] getting nearly 100x the views of the other uses of "Lubbock". If we took into account that some of the other uses like the school are subtopics per WP:DABCONCEPT it would be even higher (although the USPLACE argument may discount some views). However USPLACE probably requires the state to be included even though I don't think its necessary.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 16:16, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * USPLACE is only a guideline.  IWI  ( chat ) 16:24, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with the move, although I knew it would be opposed under USPLACE.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 20:04, 23 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Oppose, it is named as such due to Wp:USPLACE. As long as it exists, the current name and redirect are appropriate. © Tb hotch ™ (en-2.5). 18:33, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose. WP:USPLACE. Rreagan007 (talk) 19:29, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose per above. No reason to violate consistency for a city as relatively obscure as this. Nohomersryan (talk) 21:38, 23 December 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.