Talk:Lucy Maud Montgomery

Irrelevant information
There's a lot of weird, irrelevant information in this article, such as this sentence: "In Victorian Canada, premarital sex was rare for women (it was common for unmarried men seeking sex to visit brothels)." There are also a lot of instances where information is repeated. This article definitely needs to be cleaned up. Ohitsina —Preceding undated comment added 16:58, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

spelling
There seems to be some confusion about the spelling of LM Montgomery's name (Maud or Maude?) Which spelling should be used? Joele Gilbert


 * amazon.com has Maude. -- Zoe

I think it was common for individuals to use alternate spellings of their names. We should have a re-direct set up from Lucy Maud Montgomery to the more common spelling. Joele Gilbert

Rather than many of the books having their own small stub page (eg the Blue Castle, Emily of New Moon), wouldn't it make more sense to put the info on those pages on this LM Montgomery page? Anne of Green Gables, because it is so large, could still have its own page.

The author's correct name is "Lucy Maud Montgomery," per published copies of her works.

No... the correct name is "Lucy Maud Montgomery". It is stated throughout her journals that she was Maude without an "e". None of her published works used the name "Lucy Maud Montgomery", they were all published under the name "L.M. Montgomery".


 * You will recall that Anne, of Green Gables, would always say, "Anne, with an 'e'." and this may help. Just say "LM" and leave it at that. -- Narnia.Gate7 (talk) 00:34, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Things to Add?
Should there be details about her husband's insanity at all? Plus her published journals aren't included in the works listed... Is it inappropiate to include how she viewed writing, P.E. Island, etc? Especially her obsession with words, how to speall and use names. For example, she hated the name Lucy seeing it sounded wrong.... Might be interesting to add social activity she did because if I remember right she was very active during the first World War socially helping out, etc.--Hitsuji Kinno 22:05, 27 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Well 2604:3D08:EA75:3200:DE4:C9B6:8089:DFEC (talk) 16:17, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

i think you should add why she was so important to history? Thats how they have her name —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.247.23.3 (talk) 19:59, 26 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I've just read the article, am intrigued, and would love to have more. 88.97.15.184 (talk) 21:21, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Life wasn't good for Lucy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.143.179.48 (talk) 05:06, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Additional references?
http://www.historyandwomen.com/2010/01/lucy-maud-montgomery-1873-1942.html http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:L7eh-TEoUrcJ:130.102.44.245/journals/childrens_literature/v029/29.lawson.pdf+%22Ewan+MacDonald%22+insanity+L.M.+Montgomery&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjWOVTfD_GvuXSh2Gb-MzyeVkLTx3G7lCx-hlfBDPA_-FfCCXVJOeMzWlmyyDcfrD-aryApE2X5I16nlLkTHoGl2vCIclvjkXWteEI-u70wrRBizyDU_cEfaBnVLGRUgB3wMVP9&sig=AHIEtbTscnawTRpSe8Hh7UWUpc5pDeWfSA

(More on the academic side of the author)

And the quote in there seems to strongly suggest that Ewan was bipolar? I've seen some TV biographies surmise that he was schizophrenic too. --Hitsuji Kinno

what about her fiction?
I think this article is good. However, there is no list of Montgomery's fiction, which I find strange, as her non-fiction etc. all is listed.magicmarigold 11:02, 27 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Looks like the list of Novels was lost in a revert after vandalism... I've pasted them back in safe and sound =) thistlechick 19:58, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

It should be noted that L.M. Montgomery wrote 22 novels, but there are only 20 on the list of novels(I counted). I have a list of novels that she wrote in Leaskdale (I got this list from the Manse itself, well, I picked it up there) and Chronicles of Avonlea and Further Chronicles of Avonlea are included in this list, and she wrote 11 of her 22 novels at Leaskdale, so I think that people should think about moving Chronicles of Avonlea and Further Chronicles of Avonlea to "Novels" from "Short story collections", even though they are collections of short stories --Leamarie411x2 01:35, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Request Semi-protect
Due to frequent IP vandalism, I requested semi-page protection. I believe it reduce further problem of this article. Tolena (talk) 13:52, 5 February 2008 (UTC) I got answer of this:
 * Pictogram voting oppose.svg Declined – Not enough recent disruptive activity to justify protection. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 14:27, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

We need to continue fight against vandalism. Tolena (talk) 16:42, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Just pay careful attention with a WATCH on the page, and everything will be OK. -- Narnia.Gate7 (talk) 00:53, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

broken links
.........Sorry, I don't know what I am doing here. Just wanted to say that the links about LM Montgomery's suicide are all broken links....... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.68.240.147 (talk) 01:55, 13 August 2009


 * Yeah, unfortunately The Globe & Mail had a major site redesign a couple of months ago and broke the links. Luckily, I have been able to find the articles and updated the links. Thanks for the note! Double Blue  (talk) 02:42, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

opinion, not fact
"The great increase of her writings in Leaskdale is the result of her need to escape the hardships of real life." is cited, but the sentence itself is speculation that doesn't cite a source. Perhaps "According to ____, the great increase of her writings in Leaksdale..." ?? Otherwise we're assuming we know what LMM was thinking. Or, if the source cited DOES say something to the effect that LMM SAID that it was escapism, that should be in there. Don't want to delete this portion of the entry, but it should probably be edited. Wildefae (talk) 00:21, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I have her journals I'll see what I can find. It'll take a few days.(olive (talk) 00:16, 2 November 2010 (UTC))

How is it possible that "During her teaching years... In 1889... if she completed her teacher's license (in or after) 1893?
I enjoyed reading this page, and I found many interesting informations in it.

However, I see in this article something that may be a kind of self contradiction, or may be felt by the reader as one.

Following are two quotes (the next two paragraphs) from this wiki page, and after that I discuss about this "contradiction" in more details.

During her teaching years, Montgomery had numerous love interests. As a highly fashionable young woman, she enjoyed "slim, good looks,"[6] and she was the attention of several young men. In 1889, Montgomery began a relationship with a Cavendish boy named Nate Lockhart. To Montgomery, the relationship was merely a humorous and witty friendship. It ended abruptly when Montgomery refused his marriage proposal.

In 1893, following the completion of her grade school education in Cavendish, she attended Prince of Wales College in Charlottetown for a teacher's license. Completing the two-year program in one year, she obtained her teaching certificate.

How is it possible that "During her teaching years... In 1889... (she was about 15 by the way, being born in 1874) if she completed he teacher's license in 1893?

What is to be amended? Are the years false? Or is it the "During her teaching years" that is inappropriate? Or something else? (My mother tongue is not english), so I'm sorry if I'm wrong about that.

Movingmazes (talk) 00:04, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

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Lots of unproductive edits and reversions already. Is it possible to restrict edits for the day? --Prairieplant (talk) 08:56, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 November 2015 - Spelling correction
Spelling correction needed. Towards the end of the second paragraph under "Early Life" section, the word "liscence" is an incorrect spelling for "license". See https://www.google.com/search?q=license.

Sentence with the misspelling copy-pasted here:

"In 1893, following the completion of her grade school education in Cavendish, she attended Prince of Wales College in Charlottetown, and obtained a teacher's liscence."

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 * I did a little copy editing and corrected the spelling of license as well.(Littleolive oil (talk) 18:56, 30 November 2015 (UTC))
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done By Littleolive oil. -- ferret (talk) 19:03, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

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Additions by Benjamin Lefebvre
, at this edit you reverted various additions and changes to the text by, which he summed up as “Clarified information about Montgomery's periodical career and added citations to recent posthumous editions of that work”,  with the edit summary “Undid revision 1071224950 by Blefebvre Doesn't improve article and some is inaccurate”. I have added back the missing titles he had supplied and also some references, and a spelling correction, as those do improve the article. I have to say, I thought his changes to the text looked all right too, but I thought we should discuss them. Could you please clarify “some is inaccurate”? Moonraker (talk) 23:46, 19 February 2022 (UTC)


 * I have no issues with the changes you made. My concern were these: This is not an improvement:

Lucy Maud Montgomery (November 30, 1874 – April 24, 1942), who published the majority of her work as L. M. Montgomery, was a Canadian author best known for her novel Anne of Green Gables, which was published in 1908.

Over this

Lucy Maud Montgomery (November 30, 1874 – April 24, 1942), published as L. M. Montgomery, was a Canadian author best known for a series of novels beginning in 1908 with Anne of Green Gables.

I tend not to make changes when changes aren't needed in part out of respect for the original editor, and in this case the second version seems more elegant and so better than the changed version.

This changed version isn't really accurate.

"Anne of Green Gables'' was the first of twenty-two books that Montgomery published between 1908 and 1939, many of them featuring Anne Shirley as a central character or as a featured character."

"Many" did not feature Anne Shirley although a series on Anne did. "Many" is an inaccurate term anyway and in this case does not accurately depict Montgomery's multiple heroines. The original paragraph as well is more succinctly written and again, for me, more elegant than the changed I reverted.

I don't see any reason for the changes made. I do see other content disappeared with my revert that might be pertinent so I'm fine with the changes you made. I would prefer not to revert to the changes I note above. Littleolive oil (talk) 04:20, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

I'm happy to clarify my rationale for the changes I suggested.

All of Montgomery's books are signed "L.M. Montgomery," but she used a wider variety of signatures in her extensive periodical work, particularly at the beginning of her career, hence the clarifying phrase "the majority of her work."

Montgomery's books weren't published as a formal series within her lifetime, in part because she switched publishers halfway through her career. Some definitions of series books also make a distinction books in a planned numbered series of self-contained books that can be read in any order (like Nancy Drew) and a book with sequels, the latter being a more accurate term for Montgomery's books. The idea of an eight-book Anne of Green Gables series didn't occur until the Bantam-Seal paperbacks in the 1980s, and which books are included and excluded depends a lot on the publisher. For instance, in the 1970s Grosset & Dunlap published several volumes with the tag "An Anne of Green Gables Book," but it included Chronicles and Further Chronicles and excluded Rainbow Valley and Rilla of Ingleside. Even today, some sets include only the six books whose titles include Anne's name and others omit Anne of Windy Poplars and Anne of Ingleside (published much later than the others) because of copyright restrictions in the U.S. Because there's little consensus about which books are part of this "series" which aren't (as well as what order they should be listed in), I suggested the more elastic terms "many" and "featured" in order to include Chronicles, Further Chronicles, and The Blythes Are Quoted without getting caught up in the debate over which ones are "really" Anne books and which aren't.

Hope this helps. Am happy to discuss further as needed. Blefebvre (talk) 15:51, 26 February 2022 (UTC)


 * When I say series I'm not saying a series as in the Anne series, but mean rather numerous books. Is there a better word?
 * The word many is not encyclopedic per Wikipedia standards since it is rather nebulous in meaning. We used to call it a "weasel" word. Is there a better way of phrasing that content?
 * How Montgomery signed her work is not really pertinent. She wrote the material. So I'm not sure what point you are making here
 * I have to run off but will continue later. Best. Littleolive oil (talk) 14:12, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I quickly made a suggested change. The lead should have more, and the last paragraph should have more than one sentence. I'll get back to that if what's there is acceptable. Littleolive oil (talk) 14:28, 23 March 2022 (UTC)