Talk:Lucy Van Pelt/Archive 1

Football trick
If I recall correctly, the first time Lucy pulled the football away was when she was still portrayed as younger than Charlie Brown, and she was so afraid that he would accidentally kick her hands that she pulled the ball away at the last second. Back then, Lucy was still the sweet innocent young girly-girl with the round eyes, but she eventually grew into the fuss-budget we're now familiar with, which is consequently when she started purposely pulling the football away. If I can confirm this somehow, I'll add a little blurb to the football paragraph. --Birdhombre 19:06, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * That was Violet. --Wack'd About Wiki 17:06, 6 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Lucy was younger than Charlie Brown when she first pulls the ball away, but the reason she pulles it back is she "was afraid your shoes might be dirty, Charlie Brown ... I don't want anyone with dirty shoes kicking my new football..." It is definately Lucy, she is addressed by name by Charlie Brown. Mallocks 17:10, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Middle names
Lucy's middle name really is Adrienne. And Charlie Brown's middle name is "John", Sally's is "Elaine" (pronounced Elly-ane) and so on. How do I know this? A new paper called "The Peanuts Birthdates and Information" says that all the characters in "Peanuts" have their own snippets of info. I am upset that Birdhombre deleted my sources. If you can, put them back please --Janet6 8:49, 29 December 2005


 * For the moment, I will assume good faith that you're not just making up "The Peanuts Birthdates and Information." However, I am a long time Peanuts fan and have never read any of these middle names and surnames you keep adding. I can find no instances of these names using Google, nor can I find this new paper named "The Peanuts Birthdates and Information." Even if it does exist, I'd like to see more than one source support this information, again just because this is all news to me. Where did you find this paper? Lastly, you made your comment as the IP User:24.255.115.243, then edited it to give the name User:Janet6. If you really are Janet6, please sign in. --Birdhombre 02:08, 29 December 2005 (UTC)


 * That username is apparently bogus. It has no contributions listed. There are many for 24.255.115.243, and I'm glad I checked, because this user tried to slip some stuff from that "paper" into the Peanuts article also, which I had not been watching for some reason. I'm guessing this so-called "new paper" is either a "fig newton" of the user's imagination, or is something unpublished, maybe somebody's term paper, and from the standpoint of wikipedia, if it's unpublished, it effectively does not exist. Wahkeenah 05:21, 29 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks for catching that; it must have been done after I went to bed. If you look at the history, someone had attempted these edits before: and, each time with a different IP. It's getting old fast. --Birdhombre 13:05, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Older/Younger
I removed the references to Lucy being older or younger than her brothers. In the first paragraph it stated that she was older than both Linus and Rerun. Further down, when speaking of Linus, the article stated "his younger sister". If someone can straighten this out, great! If not then it shouldn't be stated as fact, IMO. Dismas|(talk) 20:57, 30 December 2005 (UTC)


 * She's definately older, in the comics she is never stated as otherwise, I'm not sure why it would be stated that she was younger at all. Even so I only added one instance of 'older' as it covers both brothers, I don't feel it need be said again. Mallocks 23:02, 30 December 2005 (UTC)


 * But is she younger than Charlie Brown?

Problems with Personality section
I was really shocked when I looked at the "Personality" section. The section's content is okay, but there's a whole ton of material there. Most of this material is superflous, redundant, and contains way too many examples, reasons, incidents, etc. In my opinion, this makes the section look long, boring, and trashy.

Take for example this portion of the section:

"In particular, she wants Linus to stop his addiction to his security blanket, and has even gone so far as to steal it. She once made a kite out of it and "accidentally" let go of it. The blanket flew around the country and people wrote Linus to let him know they saw it. The Air Force rescued it when it flew out over the Pacific Ocean. Another time Lucy buried the blanket, causing a frantic Linus to dig up almost the entire neighborhood before Snoopy found it."

We already know that Lucy tries to steal and sabotage Linus's blanket. Everything about the Air Force and Linus digging up the neighbourhood is inconcise, and basically repeats what has already been mentioned. This section is like a steak that has so much bone and gristle that no one can tell it from the steak, and vice versa.

Here is a shorter and much more concise version from the section excerpt above:

"In particular, she wants Linus to stop his addiction to his security blanket. The ways she tries to achieve this is by stealing and sabotaging the blanket."

This version has cut out all of the ways that Lucy has sabotaged the blanket. It's a whole lot shorter and concise, and it also helps express much in few words.

If we work together, we can somehow get this Personality section in shape. I'll get started by slapping an "overly long section" tag on it, and maybe that will get some people thinking.Ohyeh 22:38, 23 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm all for conciseness, but in this case I disagree. The edit you propose fails to reflect that the events take place in a comedic context.  The article makes it quite clear that Lucy is a horrible person, and without these humorous details, it could present a rather warped view of Lucy and Peanuts.


 * But what about the "wild rebel" part?


 * By the way, I heard someone say that she can be a "hottie" sometimes (either actorwise or characterwise). All though Angela Lee of "Who's The Boss", Heather Stoneman, Erica Gayle, and the Kohn Sisters were doing a good job on voicing her, are there any opinions?


 * Also, "we" don't "already know that Lucy tries to steal and sabotage Linus's blanket." Peanuts fans know that.  The article isn't just for fans. --63.25.225.157 21:01, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Lucille
To clarify, this is Peppermint Patty's name for her, not her actual name. Mallocks 10:26, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, that seems likely. PP has a tendency to give nicknames to characters, i.e. 'Chuck.' faithless   (speak)  18:42, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Then what is her real name?
 * It IS her real name, because everything in the comic strip is considered to be canonical. In 1952, a comic strip where Lucy was playing golf (Charlie Brown was her caddy) the announcer called her full name which is: LUCILLE VAN PELT. So, that's firm proof where Lucy's real name is Lucille. Besides, what else would her name be? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.245.96.192 (talk) 18:19, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Lucy also uses the name on Dec. 22, 1968. EamonnPKeane (talk) 21:40, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Lucy hugging Snoopy
I just read a strip on Snoopy.com where Lucy hugs Snoopy for warmth on a cold morning - and Snoopy throws her off saying his mother didn't raise him to be a heating pad. Also remember that it was Lucy who coined the phrase "Happiness is a warm puppy." I think this should definitely be mentioned in the 'Lucy and Snoopy' section, saying that perhaps they weren't always so confrontational. --Tigron 06:31, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

More Pictures
This article needs a few more pictures posted (like the one on snoopy.com). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.215.149.159 (talk) 04:15, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 14:19, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Lucy & Charlie Brown
More should be mentioned about whether Lucy had a crush on Charlie Brown. When I saw the page one time, the page mentioned about Charles Schulz mentioning about Lucy and Charlie Brown getting married. Unfortunately, this was removed. Please be more specific about Lucy's relationship with Charlie Brown.

1Zeba27 (talk), 6:35, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

'''Speaking of them, did Lucy ever flirt with Charlie Brown? Sometimes whenever she tempts him to kick the football, it seems as if she has a crush on him. And in, "Is This Goodbye, Charlie Brown", when Lucy asks what Charlie Brown would do when she's gone, he hesitated. So do they really love each other or what?'''

Template 19 (talk), 10:18, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

One More Link For Wikipedia Should Add As An Article
http://peanuts.wikia.com/wiki/Jessica_Lee_Smith —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.129.176.29 (talk) 02:20, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Charles hated Lucy?
In a interview Charles Schults mention that Lucy is not one of his favorite characters but that she worked and that was all that was important to him. I don't know whether this should be added or not. Just a thought I guess. -James Pandora Adams —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.126.18.254 (talk) 18:40, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

One More Link For Wikipedia Should Add As An Article
http://peanuts.wikia.com/wiki/Jessica_Lee_Smith — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.252.210.35 (talk) 02:05, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Source needed - when did this happen?
In the History section, it says: "Indeed, for all her callousness, Lucy seems to be rather thin-skinned when she is on the receiving end of an insult. For example, when Linus countered her statement that he was a terrible brother by saying that she was not such a great sister either, Lucy burst into tears."

In which comic did this happen? I'd like to be able to try and find this.(98.218.196.196 (talk) 04:23, 5 March 2012 (UTC))

Rerun's supposed name
Over in the info box, someone has put "Matthew" as Rerun's first name. There is no source given for this, to the best of my knowledge it's not true, and it is now being used to propogate that name to Rerun's article. I'm avoiding editing Peanuts-related wikipages due to a WP:COI concern; could someone please delete "Matthew" from the infobox? --Nat Gertler (talk) 13:30, 22 August 2012 (UTC)