Talk:Ludwig Von Drake

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In the Disney comic book continuity, Ludwig Von Drake was born in Vienna, Austria in about 1870. Some creators have presumed that his family is a Germanic branch of the Duck family but that hasn't been included in any major stories. Ludwig had a fascination with knowledge. Since his youth he had been trying to obtain as many diplomas, in any science, as possible. By 1930, the professor had emigrated to the United States and he married the already retired Matilda McDuck. Matilda had presumably died by 1948 because on that year her brother Scrooge McDuck claimed he was the last McDuck. Ludwig spent the rest of his life as a loner. Among his other interests was psychology and he tried to make a psychological study of his nephew Donald Duck. According to Don Rosa's timelines, Ludwig was dead by 1970. But that does not Disney themself think.

According to a controversial, but intriguing, theory, von Drake was one of the scientists extracted from Germany by U.S. Intelligence in Operation Paperclip at the end of WWII.

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Regarding from who Ludwig von Drake was named, anyone has proof regarding Mises or Beethoven? If none can be procured, perhaps the attribution should be dropped.

Ludwig and Matilda
Matilda did not die. She turns up alive and well in Don Rosa's "The Old Castle's Other Secret." Matilda and Ludwig had a divorce. He was too much of a know-it-all, and she too proud and independent, for that marriage to be a success. Erudil 18:50, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

The story is in Uncle Scrooge #342, June 2005.Erudil 20:17, 14 November 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Das Baz (talk • contribs)   It is not "unsigned" - Erudil is an alternate signature for Das Baz. Erudil 16:56, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

What happened after "The Old Castle's Other Secret" is a mystery, but there is no indication in any way that Matilda and Ludwig were divorced. If anything, Don Rosa seems to suggest in another writing that Matilda died later on. When I can get further information, I'll gladly supply it. EthelG (talk) 02:14, 12 December 2007 (UTC) EthelG

Obscure comic book with Donald Duck as a foil
I've been looking for an obscure comic book where Ludwig von Drake teaches Donald Duck about trigonometry, economics, and business. To do so, he talks about financial terms like interest, the prime lending rate, purchase power, and the velocity of money, rate of return, and gross national product. It's apparently intended for college students. And if you don't master the first few pages, you won't be able to make it to the end of the comic book because it starts getting cluttered up with a bunch of formulas! If my memory serves me correctly, the comic book ends with Donald coming back down to reality and playing a game of pool, and banking the ball off three or four sides before dropping the 8-ball in the side pocket. It was first published well before 1969, when I first laid hands on it, and it begins with a terse dialog between Donald Duck and Ludwig Von Drake. I don't think it was between Donald and Scrooge. Can this particular publication be identified better?

Ludwig von Drake sometimes substituted by Gyro Gearloose
Hi, found this info in this all-german comic forum: http://www.comicforum.de/comicforum/showthread.php?t=78071 Here the gist: Since the late 1970s, von Drake hasn't appeared anywhere else but in the Disney pocket books, and banned from the weekly/monthly comics at great extent. His last appearance was in "The Secret of the Cod card" (sp?) #27/1976; after that, he was merely given an "encore" in Mickey Mouse #33/1991, which is the only Barks story where Ludwig can be seen in at most 2 pictures. The reason why, they ask? Well, there's a murmur behind the scenes that the "younger" artists are unable to draw him, for he was not drawn by anyone but the long-time artists Strobl, Murry, K. Wright and Fletcher. Important also that the banning of Ludwig off the weekly/monthly issues is NOT a German phenomenon, mind you, but even in the Netherlands, they immediately retouche the Ludwig figure out of the comic and replace him by someone else. Sometimes these stories are drawn completely from scratch (Gyro Gearloose #37/2004) where you will find a remake of the "Ghost Deed no. 27" from Mickey Mouse #7/1964, where Ludwig has been replaced by Gyro. Phew! That's all about it! -andy 80.129.127.151 06:17, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's the younger artists, as much as the younger readers, that aren't familiar with Ludwig von Drake. I mean, he basically fell out of favour in the 70's, and no-one has been interested in a revival. 惑乱 分からん 11:26, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
 * It sounds a little bit like political correctness. After all, Ludwig von Drake was the only character with a stiff German (Dutch) accent.  You will find the same phenomenon accounting for the disappearance of the comic series Katzenjammer Kids, and that's not even a Disney strip.

Ah, but the Katzenjammer Kids have not disappeared. That strip still (December 2007) appears every Sunday, and the Katzenjammers still have the silly German accents. Das Baz, aka Erudil 18:47, 10 November 2007 (UTC) Das Baz aka Erudil 00:08, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Repeated edits to Sing-Along Songs section
An anonymous IP keeps deleting one listed title and adding another with no edit summary. Others are reverting and issuing warnings. (I think we're close to WP:3RR on the IP editor also.) I have no idea whether the IP edit is valid or not. Rather than go back and forth endlessly, someone needs to find a good citation to a reliable source that lists the video titles and mentions characters who appear. Otherwise this back-and-forth is totally pointless. Karen | Talk | contribs 19:01, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Matilda is alive and well
Matilda is alive and well. She surfaced in her native Scotland in 2005, calling herself "Matilda McDuck," not Matilda Von Drake. She decided that solitude in an old haunted castle was better than being married to an absent-minded know-it-all. Ergo, they divorced. But she must have been married once, however briefly, to the Professor, because that is the only way that Ludwig could be Donald's uncle. Das Baz, aka Erudil 00:13, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Don Rosa's Word On Ludwig and Matilda
At the webpage Don Rosa On Himself (featured at the I.N.D.U.C.K.S. website), Don Rosa stated that he wanted to have Matilda married to Ludwig von Drake, since he liked the character and felt that would be the only means of Ludwig becoming Donald Duck's uncle. However, several of his fellow artists and editors (including Bob Foster and Carl Barks) would have none of it; so apparently Matilda is still an "old maid" as far as they are concerned. According to Rosa, Matilda (married or not) would be dead by this time, officially making Scrooge the last of the Clan McDuck.

In the world of Ludwig von Drake fandom, of course, there are dividing opinions and alternate theories. EthelG (talk) 02:10, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Ludwig Von Drake or Ludwig von Drake?
Is his name Ludvig Von Drake or Ludwig von Drake? In other words, is the "von" part of his surname or a prefix? This is important, because it affects sorting. If it's just a prefix, he should be sorted as "Drake, Ludwig von". J I P &#124; Talk 19:55, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Professor Ludwig Will Make 50 Years
...of brilliantly insane existence in the next year! But that old familiar problem persists: what is his connection with the Duck Family after all?! I need to know! My neighbor cannot sleep anymore thinking about this! The whole world wants to know! - Erasurian 02:10, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Corey Burton and Albert Ash removed from article after all these years!?!
Why are we removing Corey Burton and Albert Ash from the article after all these years on this article, how's it unsourced now and why?, It needs to be put back in the article. It's not unsourced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheCrazyGuy6 (talk • contribs) 01:31, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Please demonstrate where in the article those people are sourced. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Union of Opposites   ‖ 01:33, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

They are too, Wikipedia is suppose to be a site were everyone can edit. But instead it's a website were different users remove correct sourced information on articles. So, yes, they are his voice actors too. They need to say there, it's correct. TheCrazyGuy6 (talk) 01:39, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
 * And you still haven't responded to my question. What sources, in the article, support this information? Because I said so is insufficient. Thank you. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Inspector General   ‖ 01:56, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Please be advised that the same unsourced information is being added back to the article, and being deleted since it is unreferenced. Other articles cannot be used for support, especially as they are mostly unreferenced as well. For the information to stay, please provide reliable sources in this article. Thank you. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Repel All Boarders   ‖ 17:18, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Even though Disney Wiki is not a source. It says right on that site that he's his current voice, even Corey's website too. 71.232.184.131 (talk) 22:21, 29 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Please provide links to the sources so they may be verified. -- ‖ Ebyabe talk - State of the Union  ‖ 18:31, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

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Sourced revision is unsourced?
Last week I added this line to the article: "In the Wonderful World of Color episode The Hunting Instinct, Walt Disney states Ludwig is Donald Duck's father's brother."

I now see my revision has been undone because it is supposedly "unsourced". In which way is it unsourced??? Fethry fan (talk) 10:09, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Claiming that something happened in a film is not a good source.★Trekker (talk) 10:53, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Go to YouTube. Do a search on "Digitized opening to Hunting Instinct (UK VHS)". Click on the link to the video. At around 3:52, you'll hear Walt Disney say it. Fethry fan (talk) 11:20, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
 * No. Telling people to watch a film is not appropriate sourcing. It's not my job to confirm your source, find an independent article which states that disney said so and cite it like a regular reference.★Trekker (talk) 11:26, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Video evidence is not appropriate sourcing. Got it. Is it OK if I get someone to write a blogpost and then link to it? Fethry fan (talk) 11:29, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Never mind. I just found an article about this: https://d23.com/did-you-know-8-genius-facts-about-ludwig-von-drake/ . Is that one OK as a source? Fethry fan (talk) 11:38, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Just found another source: The first post in http://featherysociety.proboards.com/thread/371/ludwig-von-drake . I don't know who the poster is... but at least it isn't a video. Fethry fan (talk) 11:42, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
 * No, not a BLOG, an article. Learn what a proper source is. Read wikipedia guidlines. PS, all of those sources are trash and fancruft. Find a good source by a respected publisher.★Trekker (talk) 11:47, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

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Reverted edits
Over the last month, an IP editor has posted some questionable content repeatedly, despite getting reverted. The edit says: "According to Walt Disney himself, Donald's paternal surname is Von Drake, but he simply preferred to adopt his maternal surname, Duck, when he became a show business star. Anyway, in comic books his paternal surname was established as Duck, his maternal one being McDuck."

The reference is for Mark Worden's Duck Family Tree, which doesn't mention Ludwig von Drake at all. It doesn't back up the claim that Walt Disney commented on his surname, or that the comics followed suit. I've reverted this several times, and posted on the IP talk pages, but the person's IP address changes and I don't know if they received the message. I'm posting it here; maybe they'll see it. If you do: is there another source that you have that backs up your claim? -- Toughpigs (talk) 18:25, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

History behind creation of character
as Walt Disney had struck up a friendship with Werhner von Braun and his team from NASA (partly responsible for the Voyage to the Moon attraction at Disneyland), it seems that there is a little Werhner in Ludwig, as well as other team members of his; research, please. Ajpajpajp1 (talk) 09:35, 7 May 2024 (UTC)