Talk:Luhansk People's Republic

Delete territorial control map
The territorial control map should be deleted as this article is about an entity that exists under Russian law, not about the military situation on the territory of the LPR. The territorial control vs. claimed territory distinction can be made by using a lighter shade of red on the map of the Russian federal subjects just below the current territorial control map.

If the territorial control map is to remain on this article, then it would make sense to add such a map for Jammu and Kashmir, Taiwan, and the Gaza Strip. Mysteriousgadfly (talk) 04:54, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Not sure I understand your point. I think it's useful for the reader to know how much of LPR is under the Russian control, and the map doesn't mislead or misinform the reader. Alaexis¿question? 06:49, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm not getting it either. The Russian law includes territories currently controlled by Ukraine in what it names as Luhansk People's Republic. IMO, it's perfectly alright to show the extent of Russian claims in this article, much like we show the extent of Ukrainian claims at Luhansk Oblast. — kashmīrī  TALK  10:59, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * By that logic, the territorial control map should be added to the Luhansk Oblast page as well. Mysteriousgadfly (talk) 04:32, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I think that they are seeking to imply that it has more legitimacy by removing the info that says that it is (merely) territory currently under control of Russian military forces. North8000 (talk) 12:38, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * But what a state is, essentially? Any state? A territory under a varying degree of forced control? —  kashmīrī  TALK  12:42, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * There are matters of degree. And this one, which is just militarily occupied territory during an active war, is at the far end of the spectrum. North8000 (talk) 13:20, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * It is not merely a militarily occupied territory, as it declared de-facto independence which lasted from 2014 to 2022, during which it was recognized by 3 UN member states, and is now a federal subject of Russia as defined by Russian law. Mysteriousgadfly (talk) 04:33, 20 July 2024 (UTC)