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Player Profile
1. FC Köln is used in this section as is 'Cologne'. Is there a naming method and if so can it be stuck to.. use German names throughout or English, don't mix and match. Evident in this line: "Even though Cologne failed to avoid the drop Podolski had shown what he could do, scoring 10 goals in his first 19 senior appearances. This was the best tally by an 18 year old in the history of the Bundesliga." Thnom 09:41, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


 * "Cologne" or "FC Cologne" should be used throughout; that's what the English-language sports writers call it. The "1." drops out. The city's French name has always been used in English and still is today. Wegesrand (talk) 19:08, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Votes for Deletion outcome
Per the discussion at VfD, this article has been kept. --TenOfAllTrades(talk) 23:43, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Sources?
Can a source be provided for these comments/conjectures? Germany coach Jurgen Klinsmann is continously praising him

Because of this, clubs such as Bayern München have manifested their interest in Podolski Aabha (talk) 14:14, 9 December 2005 (UTC)


 * That Klinsmann is high on Luke is well known, but there is no article that really pinpoints it. That FCB has interest in Podolski is really well-documented, but only in German media. Podolski has been targeted by MANY big German clubs. Onomatopoeia 08:16, 23 January 2006 (UTC)


 * No need for more discussions because Podolski achieved both of the claims. He became the striker of Germany(teamed with Klose) and he moved to Bayern München. With respect, Deliogul 22:30, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Photo of Podolski and Boruc
I know that the two of them are both of Polish descent, but they do play for different teams, Boruc for Poland, Podolski - Germany. The caption as currently written is misleading to people who don't know Podolski's true origin. For the sake of international football Podolski is all German, thus...I think a rewrite of that caption is in order to clearly distinguish that Podolski (while polish by descent) is not talking to a teammate in Boruc, but an opponent who happens to also be from the country that Podolski hails from. Batman2005 01:48, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree -- Splette [[Image:Happyjoe.jpg]] Talk 00:17, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Trivia
Do we really need the trivia section that was added a week ago? It seems clearly POV to me as all the points are about how 'polish' Podolski is. -- Splette  Talk 02:49, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


 * good point, trivia sections are generally looked down on. For the most part, anything that is encyclopedic enough to be listed in "Trivia" will likely be in the article elsewhere. Batman2005 03:22, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree. Or the title of the paragraph should be changed in something like "Podolski and Poland". Meursault2004 11:20, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, there are now new infos which have nothing to do with Poland. Let's hope the list gets thicker with awards and such as his career progresses. Pawel z Niepolomic 14:13, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Insert non-formatted text here == Zofia Budzińska ==

Please provide a source which supports the Reichsbürger theory. Also, "Babcia" does not speak German als Muttersprache. Pawel z Niepolomic 18:00, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

The source clearly states "Die Familien Klose und Podolski sind in den achtziger Jahren als Spätaussiedler in die Bundesrepublik gekommen. Sie hatten Anspruch auf die Aufnahme in die Bundesrepublik, weil die Großeltern vor dem Krieg Reichsbürger waren." - The families of Klose and Podolski have come to the Federal Republic as late-emigrants of the 80s. They had the right to immigrate because their grandparents were citizens of Imperial Germany before the war.

Who or what "Babcia" is you can explain or not.

Answer given, case closed and stop undoing other parts you haven't commented on (like the image caption or the question of his Polish passport)! City-17 18:14, 26 July 2006 (UTC)


 * The journalist, Urban, should be taken with a grain of salt, as he didn't even take the time to check if his Grandma speaks Polish or German als Muttersprache. The headline immediately gives away the author's intentions. If you could provide another neutral source which proves the Reichsbürger theory, then we can include it. As for the citizenship issue, many Polish citizens do not have passports. As far as "dla Babci", Bigos and Heimat go...

Don't try to focus on the author rather than on the article, or is there anything extremely special to know about him which has the undeniable ability to void all his works' credibility?

Maybe there are Polish citizens without passports, there are, and that's for sure, A LOT of German citizens that don't speak German. His grandmother's language doesn't make any change.

If you have any idea of German newspapers, please understand that BILD is not the most authoritative amongst them. Of course this doens't mean it's wrong. Though, I can't find any statements in that url of yours which have a meaning for that article.

Yours faithfully City-17 19:46, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

The mentioned fact that Podolski is the first player since Gerd Müller to score four goals in an international match is not true: Michael Ballack has made four goals against Malta (7-0) in 2004.


 * Yes, right here it is http://newpaper.asia1.com.sg/printfriendly/0,4139,63033,00.html so hes the third german *changed* and I added by back the trivia any one dare to object? Trivia is found on many footballer pages.--Yu5uF 16:08, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

I combined the trivia about Podolski's feelings about Germany and Poland in one trivia "bit", adding information about the unique boots he wears and his impressions of them. 68.115.63.242 16:38, 5 August 2006 (UTC)ernham

Schweinski
I have noticed that there is a considerable lack of the Schweinski angle in this page. if You don't know what I'm talking about, Bastian "Schweini" Schweinsteiger + Lukas "Poldi" Podolski=Schweinski. They are great team mates that are always cooperating and work very well together. There has been a lot made of this in the German Media and I can't help but notice this page is pathetically ignorant of it.

--Jadger 04:13, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

And how can we incorporate that into the page? Kingjeff 04:14, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure, I am asking for input/ideas to help with this. I know for instance, that Schweinsteiger was responsible for recruiting him to come to Bayern over the other big name clubs, as they are best friends. that could be included following the section about the trade from Köln.

--Jadger 14:34, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating
This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 23:14, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Wrong information
Podolski didn't help Germany a 1 - 0 lead cause Turkey scored scored the first goal, Podolski passed the ball to Schweinsteiger to even the score. ADB15 (talk) 21:18, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Club career stats
¿Don't you think that All-time club performance chart should be a part of the sub-section "Club Career"? I think that this would be the right place for it as it reflects and complements the club career info. I might be starting a discussion on this topic in Wikiproject Football. Mannschaftskapitän (talk) 04:29, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Add assists to the stat table because Podolski is playing as winger.

Tables don't always look good when put with the prose. Kingjeff (talk) 22:02, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Height
I suspect that Lukas is really 1.80 meters and not the 1.82 meters that he's listed, because there are only two places that lists him at the latter: his personal website and his old club. Every other listing has him at 1.82 meters. It's quite common for people, in general, to exaggerate their heights, and this kind of exaggeration is even more rampant in sports. I say we list him at 1.80 m. He certainly doesn't look anything over that.


 * Usually the players' official site and the profile at his club are considered the most reliable. If you want to list a him at a different height, you would have to provide some very reliable sources. --Jaellee (talk) 10:09, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

National team stats
Did he really play 81 matches and scored 41 goals in national team? I dont think so.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.0.204.121 (talk) 18:14, 18 September 2010 (UTC)


 * There are two reliable sources that say he did: The DFB and fussballdaten.de. --Jaellee (talk) 18:40, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

The Accidental Husband
Curiosity: about Podolski and Miroslav Klose was mentioned in the film The Accidental Husband, about 36 minutes. Subtropical-man (talk) 20:30, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

The Photo
It's very old maybe you could put the newer one from German Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.177.180.174 (talk) 19:33, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Arsenal transfer
You need to add Arsenal as his new club side from 2012-

EDIT: Here's the oficial page's article http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/arsenal-agree-deal-for-podolski

guidomartin (talk) 19:11, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Nici  Vampire  Heart  19:38, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

It can only partially be done. Officially transfers are only official as of 1 July. Therefore "Current club" can't change, but the rest can. Kingjeff (talk) 23:53, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Audio plug-in "Podolski" by u-he (Urs Heckmann)
I remember that when this plug-in (now freeware) – http://www.u-he.com/cms/podolski – came out in 2005, I read that the developer named it after Lukas Podolski. Can't find anything about it on the web anymore, though. And I don't know if such things should be included in the article at all. — 16:11, 20 December 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.53.39.193 (talk)

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Quote: "...like chess, only without the dice"
I've removed the sentence

and the two citations:

Here's my reason. The quote is falsely attributed to Podolsky. The german comedian de:Jan Böhmermann created a series called "Lukas' Tagebuch" (Lukas diary) for the Cologne radio station 1live during the time Podolsky played for 1.FC Cologne, and the world cup 2006. He took snippets of original Podolsky answers during regular interviews and created false "funny" interviews around those to mock Podolsky. Who reacted with a C&D which the station declined due to it being "art" and "freedom of speech". Podolsky retracted the C&D the day it was going to go for court (german). During UEFA Euro 2008 Böhmermann created „Pod-Olski – Der EM-Podcast von Lukas“ (The Euro Podcast by Lucas). During which he created the following "interview": (youtube, german, starting ~2 mins in). Citation: LP(original): "What's correct in the papers was plain wrong" (sic) - JB: "Well that's quite a quote for football history, and like you once said: "Football is like chess...". So, there are some memorable quotes in the series, but this exact one was put into LP's mouth by Böhmermann, and it spiraled from there, including german football paper Kicker and the above cited Spiegel online. I didn't find any reliable english sources for this, but here's a german one telling the story, renown Süddeutsche Zeitung: . Hence I chose to remove instead of correct. cheers--Simius narrans (talk) 21:52, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Possible Vandalism by IP Users
In two previous verisons of the article, I have seen that two different IP addresses have changed the goal statistics to a different number, and a registered user has had to revert these edits, different registered users have undone these edits, I would suggest that semi protection be applied temporarily to prevent any vandalism, and that after the semi protection expires, if it continues, then semi protect it permanently due to IP vandalism, any thoughts? Zafiraman (talk) 03:54, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I dont think there is enough recent activity for a protection and a permanent semi-protection will probably not happen, that comes after a very long term of vandalism and many temporary protections. Instead of a permanent protection a pending changes-protection might be more appropriate. But if you feel like it you can always request a protection at WP:RPP but I think it is to soon. QED237&#160;(talk) 12:48, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

List league or nation of the player's club?
There was a discussion in WP:FOOTY when I participated that asked this question, particularly about another player. The decision was it's better not to list either, but if someone is willing to maintain it, not to change it and allow the editors to decide article-by-article. Sorry, I cannot find it despite searching the archives. Feel free to ask there again as consensus may have changed.

Looking at a few articles of fellow Germany players:
 * no mention of club' league or nation
 * Manuel Neuer
 * Philipp Lahm
 * Jérôme Boateng
 * Kevin Großkreutz
 * Mats Hummels
 * Per Mertesacker
 * Erik Durm
 * Julian Draxler
 * Thomas Müller
 * Ron-Robert Zieler
 * Christoph Kramer


 * mention club's nation
 * Mesut Özil
 * Shkodran Mustafi
 * Toni Kroos


 * mention club's league
 * Bastian Schweinsteiger
 * Matthias Ginter
 * André Schürrle


 * mention both (i.e. "German Budesliga" or "Bundesliga in Germany")
 * Miroslav Klose
 * Mario Götze
 * Roman Weidenfeller

As you can see, there is no standard. Walter Görlitz (talk) 02:44, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 January 2015
Lucas Podolski is transferred to Internazionale Milano F.C

Dani sdti (talk) 20:01, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (e • t • c) 23:15, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * The change is that there are rumours that Pololski will transfer to Milan, but they're only rumours. Before anyone requests again, make sure that a reliable source that the transfer has completed is offered. That would be from either one of the clubs. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:34, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 January 2015
Hey there, he has now played two games at Inter and you should add the "Silbernes Lorbeerblatt" of 2014 in the "Honours" section.

THX in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.6.196.17 (talk) 13:38, 15 January 2015 (UTC)


 * X mark.svg Not done where do you want match change made and do you have sources for your claims? QED237&#160;(talk) 14:23, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Of wich one?

Whole Squad of WC 2014 became the Silbernes Lorbeerblatt, not only some players like e.g. Philipp Lahm, Bastian Schweinsteiger or Mario Götze.

For the games: He not only played 34 minutes at Juventus, as rightly already covered, but also the whole ninety minutes at the weekend against Genoa.

At least the games should be known. You, in the end, keep hold of this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.6.196.17 (talk) 15:27, 15 January 2015 (UTC)


 * I try again,
 * Where should the number of matches be updated and do you have a source for number of matches?
 * Do you have a source saying he recieved "Silbernes Lorbeerblatt"?
 * Nothing will be added to any WP:BLP without sources. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">QED</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 16:01, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

1. There are two different lists on the page regarding statistics for years, games, clubs and goals. The first below the name, d.o.b., nationality etc. on the right side, top of the page. The other one at the end of the article. Are you really asking this, because it feels like kidding?

It reads Internazionale 1 (0).

Now here are the cites:

@Juventus Vs. Genoa

2. I gave you other players with sources, like: Click Me

Again, in this case the TEAM is honoured, same as in 2006 and 10.

Hope everything is cleared up now.

Not here to confront, but it is kind of time consumpting and obviously there is a source for the first Inter game and so there should be all games to be found, assuming that the information comes from a sportspage with matchdays.

So thx again.

p.s.: I originally came here to expand the information regarding the no. 10 shirt of 1.FC Köln, because they gave it to Patrick Helmes this season. That fact created some controversy and Lukas was somewhat unhappy about it. Since I wrote that initinal information onto here, I wanted it to be more precise.

Before you ask: Have a look ;-)

p.p.s.: "Serie A" in the last table should be linked with the wiki-article.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.6.196.17 (talk) 18:25, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 January 2015
80.191.211.21 (talk) 18:11, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

❌ Please provide a source. So far there are only rumours. Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:17, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

He officially signed for Inter until the end of the current season, officially at around 19:00 GMT on January 3, 2015. It shall be changed. --Thomas0802 (talk) 20:30, 3 January 2015 (UTC)


 * It can not be official until 5 January, when italian transferwindow opens. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif"><b style="color:blue">QED</b><b style="color:red">237</b>&#160;<b style="color:green">(talk)</b></i> 21:27, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 * That's great . We can't do anything until 5 January and definitely not until a reliable source is provided. Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:40, 3 January 2015 (UTC)