Talk:Luke Freeman

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Is he in the Arsenal reserves or youth-team setup? Fronsdorf (talk) 19:25, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

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Senior career started before youth career ended
Freeman's senior career started with his first team appearances for Gillingham in Dec 2007. The next month he went to Arsenal as a member of their youth set up. He didn't sign professional forms at Arsenal until April 2009. The infobox has stated this reasonably (although the change for youth to senior at Arsenal probably should have been marked as 2009 rather than 2010) for many years, but WP:FOOTY stalwart GiantSnowman has changed that, on the grounds that "youth career cannot extend beyond senior career". In this case, that is precisely what happened, so I reverted with explanation lifted from the article. GS re-reverts saying that this is a standard at WP:FOOTBALL, but no reference to the establishment of this principle, not to discussion establishing the consensus behind it.

My suggestion would be that a standard should never force us to make false statements (Freeman was not a senior player at Arsenal in 2008-9), so whatever standard is attempted to be set cannot be accurately applied here. Thoughts? Kevin McE (talk) 12:26, 24 August 2018 (UTC)