Talk:Lupe Fiasco/Archive 1

Added Template
I've added a template for Lupe Fiasco, but I don't know how to create one. Would someone else who knows how to create one please do so? I can provide a complete tracklisting, including singles, vinyls, and mixtapes. Thank You. I am not sure where to add this in but i don't know why the picture states he was at nwu on may 27,2007. i personally saw him at ucla on the day Jay 21:20, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

No you haven't I have. lol User: cowbellcity45 May 30 ,2007

Kick Push
Now is Lupe's song spelled "Kick Push" or "Kick, Push" ?


 * It's "Kick, Push" (and there is also a song called "Kick, Push II"). I have the album in front of me, although on the back of the album the song titles are in all caps. Boondock 02:03, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Swearing
Does the album have uncensored swearing? Someone please respond.
 * Yes it does. The album says Nigga, and refers to people calling women Bitches Sartaj 05:25, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Praise from Chicago LGBT Community? (needs citation)
The article says that "Lupe is praised in the Chicago gay and lesbian community mainly due to his song "Hurt Me Soul" where he reveals an ex-boyfriend beat him." Is there any citation for this? It seems very odd to me, because the lyrics in that song give the definite impression that he isn't talking about himself (see http://www.metrolyrics.com/lyrics/2147435533/Lupe_Fiasco/Hurt_Me_Soul). The lyrics actually say "My mom can't feed me, my boyfriend beats me / I have sex for money, the hood don't love me." I searched on Google for praise of Lupe from the gay community but found nothing. Boondock 02:03, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * that song has was not about lupe. the quote needs to be removed. --Jaysscholar 13:20, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

There's an artice in the new Advocate magazine quoting Lupe's album. Even if it's not what he intended, the statement is a fact.
 * You sure? I took the liberty of checking up on advocates website, a search for Lupe Fiasco gives me back not a thing.--Mr Bucket 04:15, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Just wanted tack on an additional note; if you're readin some of the newest stuff from a magazine with notable information you might wanna take care of citing this yourself - I'm too lazy to check if Advocate lets non-subscribers read their stuff, but you being one you'd definitely be able to take care of sourcing the info as a printed article or when it's put online.--Mr Bucket 04:21, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I think the that the whole LGBT should be removed, There is no real Ref. here and anyway Lupe is a wise musilm. See Homosexuality and Islam--Szayat 16:47, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Anyone who truly knows Lupe Fiasco knows that most of his songs are stories about other people. In fact, he almost never talks about himself except in maybe 3 songs. And any educated person will tell you that Hurt Me Soul is about society in general. If you think its about him, then why dont we also start a conspiracy on him being a terrorist cause of his song "american terrorist?" It just doesnt make sense. Allegations this deep and personal need a lot better citation. Sartaj 19:03, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Just the song title "American Terrorist" itself should start conspiracies.

People, if you want to know if there is any truth about being mentioned in Advocate, you have to locate a library in a gay community and there will be a few back copies. There was a website that I found that said he had an interview in August in Advocate. So if some folks want to find out if what was mentioned was praise, you can look at one of the two Advocate magazines. Either that or e-mail Fiasco's MySpace account or his publicist's e-mail.

Style
Some comment should be made about his unique Emcee style. He tends to rhyme within rhymes, similar to Nas in his early days. Also, his topics are different from the typical club/crunk music of our time. He has a bit more potent subject matter. He also seems to love to use metaphors and metonymy.(case in point, Never Lies aka The Instrumental)

please. internal rhymes? metaphor? those are some of the most BASIC devices used by rappers. his subject matter is hardly unique (the fact that he's not like a crunk rapper doesn't make him unique, just in a different branch of hip-hop. by that logic, lil' scrappy has unique subject matter since "conscious hip-hop" doesnt talk about busting people's heads.) every halfway decent rapper (and tons of bad ones too) uses internal rhymes.

Appearances
The listing of appereances isn't necessary IMO. Unless it is in a place you wouldn't expect a emcee to be, then i don't think its noteworthy. There's no reason to start listing his shows. --Jaysscholar 13:02, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Separation
I think the 1/15 and food and liquor should be seperated, they are very sperate projects, and there is enough info on each.

Thoughts?

--Samlich 01:51, 27 July 2006 (UTC)


 * There is not enough info on each project. --Jaysscholar 06:02, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

If you need specific information e-mail his MySpace account from your MySpace account or e-mail his publicist. 1/15 is obviously his own label. It also would depend on what information you're interested in.

Reebok
He has a shoe deal with reebok. He's had it for a while. I don't really know where to fit it in though. On a side note, he doesnt have his own shoe, he, mike jiones, and lil wayne all represent the same shoe ... but anyways some note should be made --Jaysscholar 14:46, 27 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I think there is a discrepency between RBK owning DGK. DGK is a separate skateboarding company that presents an image of "gangsterism", and is owned by the african-american skate Stevie Williams, who has his skate team and the DGK brand name licensed to Reebok. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.26.82.18 (talk • contribs • WHOIS )

New Lupe Interview
Here's one, a bit older: http://www.contactmusic.com/new/home.nsf/webpages/lupefiascox22x05x06 And here's a new video interview. Maybe this can help who ever is doing this bio. http://www.contactmusic.com/new/home.nsf/webpages/lupefiascox27x06x06 props to the people able to work with Wikipedia.

Four brothers???
No sirs, Lupe is the youngest of five brothers, as stated directly on his official Web site...

please correct the phrase.

PS: the word "fiasco" in italian means "when you aim to something, but despite your efforts it's a total failure". of course i'm italian...

Bye...

huge following of what?
"Lupe has been pushed to the forefront of "rap" and now has a ''huge following of backpackers." This statement about his fan following seems to be conjecture at best, and doesn't seem to conform to neutral POV. If it is to remain in the article, it needs some kind of citation.

No Emcee Chicago
Wrong name of the second album. In the Outro of the album he states the second album will be "Lupe Fiasco's The Cool". AIght, now erase that shit.

Lupe has no second album distribution deal with Atlantic. Until he has a deal, he has no second album.

Mixtapes?
What happened to the list of mixtapes?


 * Yeah, why were the Mixtapes removed? I know they're not official albums, but they're all official, and contain exclusive music, not released elseware. Jay 02:38, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Blogging
He just had a post saying he's stopped blogging for now. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Papavb (talk • contribs).

Mixtape Dates/Order
Answering Szayat's question: I don't know the exact release dates for the Mixtapes, but I do know the order they were released.
 * Lupe Fiasco Mixtape Chrono.:
 * Fahrenheit Part I
 * Fahrenheit Part II
 * Fahrenheit Part III
 * Fahrenheit Part IIII
 * Nerds In Paradise
 * Lupe The Jedi
 * DigitalJunkees.com Presents... Lupe Fiasco "The Great"
 * Touch The Sky (Hosted by DJ E. Nyce)
 * Chi-City Classics
 * Deja Vu (Hosted by Pharrell & Lupe Fiasco) (creating...)
 * It Was Written
 * RBK Artists Spotlight Vol. 1 (Hosted by Lupe Fiasco)
 * Chi-Town Guevara
 * Trials And Tribulations Vol. 1
 * 2K Sports Mixtape (Hosted by Clinton Sparks)
 * DJ Exclusive Presents Lupe Fiasco: Street Smart
 * Then these were Tapes he was a guest on:
 * Rise Of The Phynx: The Mixtape
 * DJ Green Lantern Presents Fort Minor: We Major
 * Getting Up: Contents Under Pressure (Official Mixtape)

Hope that helps. Jay 22:08, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Jay, the thing is there is no real source that indecates that these Mixtabes are real. (BTW some of them I have) --Szayat 22:47, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * No problem. Well, some of them are (at least in my opinion) undoubtably official (being made, released, and promoted openly by Lupe himself, most noticebly the 1st & 15th parts 1 - 3, and the 2K7 Mixtape Tapes), but I admit the others don't have solid enough proof of validity for Wikipedia (they're pretty strict, understandably). Maybe Lupe will give a list of his Mixtape Discography, or even bless us with a Wikipedia post.
 * And I'd be interested in which ones you own, I'd like to see what the actual CDs themselves look like (not the artwork/sticker), as I haven't bought any yet. If you wouldn't mind showing me pics of the CDs, my E-Mail is jeremiah@mit.midco.net. Thanks again, and nice work on the Discography layout. I'm glad somebody's just upgrading it, I was afraid the Tapes were all removed, until I saw you're work. Ciao. Jay 01:36, 18 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Well Jay, Thanks for your kind comment. About the Mixtabes what I meant with "I have" is that I've got them from a friend, shared as MP3's. --Szayat 11:40, 18 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see. Yeah, I only Mp3s myself too (thanks to DatPiff.com, and some random searching). And I also agree with Sartaj's arguement about removing the part about his conversion to the protestant religion, for the same reasons as Sartaj posted. With no real proof, it doesn't have a right to be in the article. Jay 21:04, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

1st & 15th
Does anybody knows any info of this label, I searched google & found http://www.1stand15th.com/ & an @ ART project http://www.1stand15th.com/singapore.htm --Szayat 23:01, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Answer theres other rappers on the label lyke shayla G and Gemini

There is NO citation on Lupe's Conversion
Wikipedia is not a place for conspiracies. The fact that he converted to Protestantism has no citation whatsoever. So i really don't know where the person who wrote it got the idea from. And after an extensive search on gooogle, i have yet to find even one source other thank wikipedia that references his conversion to protestantism. Till it has proper citation from a reputable source, I suggest removing this as it has potential to cause way too much controversy. This error is a huge error, especially since Lupe is adored in the Muslim community. so such an allegation really needs sources before being put on wikipedia. Sartaj 18:58, 18 December 2006 (UTC)Sartaj

If the man converted, I wonder why he has a Koran on the CD cover? He must have converted last week? I don't think so.

"Documentary" Clips
I found some Interesting video interviews & clips on Google Video

--Szayat 18:58, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
 * SOHH Focused: Lupe Fiasco
 * Lupe Fiasco "i am"
 * "Relations"

Reorder Categories
I think the categories should be reordered to create a fluent article read. right now parts of his life are all over the place Sartaj 23:36, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Numbers vandalism
Someone may want to check out the numbers in the singles rankings. There is someone at an IP address who gets a kick out of vandalizing articles by changing numbers. Here is the suspect edit:. It looks like some of these changes are still in the table. Kablammo 02:06, 10 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I noticed this too. i dont know about his Singles stats, so i hope someone else notices this when it happens again. 71.252.241.237 02:12, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Remade Lupe Fiasco Article
Hey guys, i totally rehauled the Lupe Fiasco article to add more info and make it more flowing and fluent. Hope you guys like it.

By the way, im 71.252.241.237. I just forgot to log in. sorry :).

If you disagree with any of my edits, please create an new topic so that it can be fixed. Sartaj 02:15, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey, is the whole section on the radio show really necessary? 130.64.143.45 20:03, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Should we have a fanbase subsection?
Should we have a subsection on who Lupe's fans usually are? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sartaj (talk • contribs) 02:45, 19 February 2007 (UTC).

Swearing?
Yes, his album does contain unedited swearing, and his songs come with an "explicit" tag, at least when downloaded from iTunes.

Despite the prolific swearing at some points, he does say "forgive me for my favorite word for her and her's alike/..." after saying "bitch" in the song "Hurt Me Soul", maybe implying that he feels that cursing is a necessary evil for his medium of choice: ".../but i learned it from a song I heard and sorta liked"

Nincubus99x 22:55, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

This is a reference to Too $hort whose self-proclaimed favorite word is "bitch" (i.e. in "Blow The Whistle" he rhymes: "What's my favorite word? (Bitch!)")  It seems that most of his swearing isn't coming directly from him.

Lead in
Is it really necessary to include his religious affiliation in the opening sentence? If you look at musicians who were promoted to featured articles like Weird Al Yankovic & Mariah Carey, none of them say "X is a Scientologist singer..." or "X is a Christian singer..." or whatever their beliefs may be. Same thing with rappers who were promoted to good article status like The Game and 2pac. Afterall, Lupe is most notable for being an artist rather than being of a certain belief system. It's important to him personally, which is why it belongs in the relevant 'Personal life' section. I also removed 'African' based on the good articles above. Spellcast 13:57, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree. Although Lupe is Muslim and he does refer to it a lot, his music is not focused on religion, meaning his religion doesn't really have to be put at the top. Sartaj 20:21, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

This article needs to be "Wikized"
This article needs to be put under the scope of a "Good Article." Currently it is unorganized and confusing for many people. I think we need to work to help this article achieve at least a B status.Sartaj 04:19, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Another overgiddy article about a "backpack" rapper
I notice it says he is a hero to nerds and the middle class. What about when he used to be your regular crack rapper? There seems to be no mention of it.

God, I really hate the term "backpack" rapper, it is such a stupid term. He never explicitly was a crack rapper. He used to be a gangsta rapper because at the time he was listening to like tupac and B.I.G. But that's about it. User: cowbellcity45 May 30, 2007

College radio
Was he approached to start a station, or to start a show on a station? Article is unclear. — DIV (128.250.204.118 04:14, 2 June 2007 (UTC))

Associated acts
There should be an associated acts section for Lupe like there is for other rappers. The names that come to mind right now would be Kanye, Pharrell, Gemini, and maybe Jay-Z?

FNF Radio..
Hey i think that line about fnf radio being scheduled to air should be removed cuz its not airing anymore and hasnt been for a year now....They are in the process of trying to bring fnf radio back but things are uncertain yet...